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    • RE: OEM MS Office now has Expiry date

      @JasGot said in OEM MS Office now has Expiry date:

      Just noticed this on Dell orders. Not sure when it showed up, but it couldn't have been more than a few days....

      MS Office now shows an expiry date:

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      Office via Open allows for .MSI Office 2016 to be installed. I suggest sticking with that for critical workloads especially RDS Farms.

      Click-2-Run, which is 2019 and 2021 versions, is an on-the-fly product that gets updates randomly that can hork things up bad and require a full re-install after removing it with a pair of tweezers. 😛

      posted in IT Business
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

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      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      Anyone been to Rackspace's website recently? I forgot that they even existed. I went to their website and realized why...

      https://www.rackspace.com

      This looks like an AI generated page of gibberish if you said "make a generic MSP page that says nothing."

      I'm seeing rumblings that business continuity for anyone on their Hosted Exchange is a total loss. So, if they are not Outlook enabled and thus able to export their mailbox to a .PST file, or other such client that can do so, they are totally and completely hooped.

      Sacrosanct Edict #1: One shall never lose the data. One shall save the data. One shall always back up the data. One shall always test restore the data. One shall lose job if lose the data.
      ^^^
      In this case, one has to wonder how long RS is going to be around as the rest of their businesses get hit with the lack of trust.

      Now, the G00g lost a freaking huge amount of mailboxes something like a decade ago. We had a customer impacted by that. No redress. None. Back then there wasn't a disaster recovery structure in place where they could back up their data short of making regular .PST files. So, gone. It was all in the G. 😞

      For personal backups, I'm using MailStore Home (https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/). They have some business offerings that might be worth looking at regardless of your provider.

      Thanks for this.

      I have a client that doesn’t want to do M365 backups because they think a cloud provider won’t lose data.

      Remind them that Microsoft lost MY data!!

      Backstory?

      Prepare for incoming book. lol.

      Heh ... we had a client lose their business continuity about a decade ago when the G00g had a major outage. No phone numbers to get anywhere with them. It was a ticket. Eventually, the silence from the G00g was a GFY.

      They had enough documentation outside of their mail system to marginally pull things together but it was a huge hit against them.

      Yeah, Cloud. It's da'bomb. ;0)

      Unfortunately we're getting pressure from the state level down that is wanting us to go to the cloud. We just disabled our 2 AD Controllers that wer ein Azure because of problems they were causing.

      The psychology behind the marketing push and mental formation is nothing short of amazing.

      I've had peeps stare at me like I was from Mars because we focus on on-premises workloads including Exchange.

      "Why?"

      Then all the sputum like "Modern", "Agile", and other such Gummy Bears get dropped as convincers meanwhile not one, "this is why cloud is better than on-premises and its payback" ever gets mentioned.

      He who has the data owns the data. He who owns the data can do with the data what he pleases. He who has the data can also lose it and tell peeps to GFY when they are panicking because their entire business just went down the toilet. #SMH

      EDIT: Case and Point: Musk going on about playing vid games in a TESLA. Really? I don't give a flying f*ck about that. I want a car that will get me from A to B with the occasional 5 second or better run to 110KM/H or even a 13 second or better quarter mile.

      The rest is all FLUFF. FEATURES ARE FLUFF. They mean SFA to a business's bottom line (I have new clue in my dyslexic brain where that apostrophe goes). That just goes over most peep's head.

      Anything we can do a in a $500 a month Azure VM, I can do in a $10 a month Vultr VM..

      Heh, and we can do on-premises for the cost of the SPLA SAL for Exchange Standard.

      It really depends on the org's goals.

      Needed would be a DC VM and the Exchange VM with 4 vCPUs on the fly and 16GB vRAM on the fly. For updates, it's good to bump the VM up to 8 vCPUs and 64GB vRAM to allow for the compiling that happens.
      EDIT: Or, just wait. :0)

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      Anyone been to Rackspace's website recently? I forgot that they even existed. I went to their website and realized why...

      https://www.rackspace.com

      This looks like an AI generated page of gibberish if you said "make a generic MSP page that says nothing."

      I'm seeing rumblings that business continuity for anyone on their Hosted Exchange is a total loss. So, if they are not Outlook enabled and thus able to export their mailbox to a .PST file, or other such client that can do so, they are totally and completely hooped.

      Sacrosanct Edict #1: One shall never lose the data. One shall save the data. One shall always back up the data. One shall always test restore the data. One shall lose job if lose the data.
      ^^^
      In this case, one has to wonder how long RS is going to be around as the rest of their businesses get hit with the lack of trust.

      Now, the G00g lost a freaking huge amount of mailboxes something like a decade ago. We had a customer impacted by that. No redress. None. Back then there wasn't a disaster recovery structure in place where they could back up their data short of making regular .PST files. So, gone. It was all in the G. 😞

      For personal backups, I'm using MailStore Home (https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/). They have some business offerings that might be worth looking at regardless of your provider.

      Thanks for this.

      I have a client that doesn’t want to do M365 backups because they think a cloud provider won’t lose data.

      Remind them that Microsoft lost MY data!!

      Backstory?

      Prepare for incoming book. lol.

      Heh ... we had a client lose their business continuity about a decade ago when the G00g had a major outage. No phone numbers to get anywhere with them. It was a ticket. Eventually, the silence from the G00g was a GFY.

      They had enough documentation outside of their mail system to marginally pull things together but it was a huge hit against them.

      Yeah, Cloud. It's da'bomb. ;0)

      Unfortunately we're getting pressure from the state level down that is wanting us to go to the cloud. We just disabled our 2 AD Controllers that wer ein Azure because of problems they were causing.

      The psychology behind the marketing push and mental formation is nothing short of amazing.

      I've had peeps stare at me like I was from Mars because we focus on on-premises workloads including Exchange.

      "Why?"

      Then all the sputum like "Modern", "Agile", and other such Gummy Bears get dropped as convincers meanwhile not one, "this is why cloud is better than on-premises and its payback" ever gets mentioned.

      He who has the data owns the data. He who owns the data can do with the data what he pleases. He who has the data can also lose it and tell peeps to GFY when they are panicking because their entire business just went down the toilet. #SMH

      EDIT: Case and Point: Musk going on about playing vid games in a TESLA. Really? I don't give a flying f*ck about that. I want a car that will get me from A to B with the occasional 5 second or better run to 110KM/H or even a 13 second or better quarter mile.

      The rest is all FLUFF. FEATURES ARE FLUFF. They mean SFA to a business's bottom line (I have new no (and I'm still dyslexic) clue in my dyslexic brain where that apostrophe goes). That just goes over most peep's head.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Uptime Kuma - Self Hosted Monitoring

      @scottalanmiller said in Uptime Kuma - Self Hosted Monitoring:

      If you want a dashboard, Netdata does that out of the box. If you want a pretty dashboard for Zabbix, then that's when Grafana is going to shine. Build an amazing sexy dashboard for your Zabbix data on Grafana to make management happy about a monitoring solution.

      I've had some fun with Grafana, Telegraf, and InfluxDB but it's been a while.
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      S2D v1 - Kepler-47 IOPS Run 2.PNG

      S2D v1 - Kepler-47 IOPS Run 3.PNG

      The above were done during one of our SMB S2D cluster proof runs. Grafana was great for helping to pinpoint what was going on while it was happening. We were able to do some pretty good tuning to pull off great IOPS and Throughput numbers from a little Intel Xeon E3 single socket platform with SATA SSDs for cache and SAS HDDs for capacity.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Uptime Kuma - Self Hosted Monitoring

      @scottalanmiller said in Uptime Kuma - Self Hosted Monitoring:

      @PhlipElder no, Grafana doesn't do monitoring at all. It is only a graphical representation tool. If you want to use Grafana with monitoring tools, which is a great fit, you need a monitoring tool separately, then have Grafana display said monitoring info.

      For example, we do this with Grafana and Zabbix. Zabbix does the monitoring, Grafana adds an additional graphical interface to the Zabbix data.

      Excellent thank you.

      It's on the To Do List to set something up for the Ubuntu instances we've been deploying on our hosting clusters.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      Anyone been to Rackspace's website recently? I forgot that they even existed. I went to their website and realized why...

      https://www.rackspace.com

      This looks like an AI generated page of gibberish if you said "make a generic MSP page that says nothing."

      I'm seeing rumblings that business continuity for anyone on their Hosted Exchange is a total loss. So, if they are not Outlook enabled and thus able to export their mailbox to a .PST file, or other such client that can do so, they are totally and completely hooped.

      Sacrosanct Edict #1: One shall never lose the data. One shall save the data. One shall always back up the data. One shall always test restore the data. One shall lose job if lose the data.
      ^^^
      In this case, one has to wonder how long RS is going to be around as the rest of their businesses get hit with the lack of trust.

      Now, the G00g lost a freaking huge amount of mailboxes something like a decade ago. We had a customer impacted by that. No redress. None. Back then there wasn't a disaster recovery structure in place where they could back up their data short of making regular .PST files. So, gone. It was all in the G. 😞

      For personal backups, I'm using MailStore Home (https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/). They have some business offerings that might be worth looking at regardless of your provider.

      Thanks for this.

      I have a client that doesn’t want to do M365 backups because they think a cloud provider won’t lose data.

      Remind them that Microsoft lost MY data!!

      Backstory?

      Prepare for incoming book. lol.

      Heh ... we had a client lose their business continuity about a decade ago when the G00g had a major outage. No phone numbers to get anywhere with them. It was a ticket. Eventually, the silence from the G00g was a GFY.

      They had enough documentation outside of their mail system to marginally pull things together but it was a huge hit against them.

      Yeah, Cloud. It's da'bomb. ;0)

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Word to PDF converter ...

      @Obsolesce said in Word to PDF converter ...:

      @BraswellJay said in Word to PDF converter ...:

      @Obsolesce said in Word to PDF converter ...:

      @BraswellJay you don't need one with word. In Word, just export as pdf.

      I can't do that in bulk that way though, can I?

      My user may have 50 or so word files and she wants to convert them all to separate PDFs without having to open each one individually in word.

      I thought there may be a tool that would just let her bulk select all and convert them all at once.

      You can do it with PowerShell. Make a simple script for the user to run.

      Here's one resource that works:
      https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16534292/basic-powershell-batch-convert-word-docx-to-pdf

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Uptime Kuma - Self Hosted Monitoring

      @StuartJordan said in Uptime Kuma - Self Hosted Monitoring:

      Uptime Kuma, A self hosted Monitoring tool.
      great to run on Vutr or Digital Ocean.

      I have just installed this on an Ubuntu Instance and installed very quickly with no problems.

      https://github.com/louislam/uptime-kuma

      uptime_kuma.jpg

      Does Grafana fit into the same category as far as monitoring goes?

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      Anyone been to Rackspace's website recently? I forgot that they even existed. I went to their website and realized why...

      https://www.rackspace.com

      This looks like an AI generated page of gibberish if you said "make a generic MSP page that says nothing."

      I'm seeing rumblings that business continuity for anyone on their Hosted Exchange is a total loss. So, if they are not Outlook enabled and thus able to export their mailbox to a .PST file, or other such client that can do so, they are totally and completely hooped.

      Sacrosanct Edict #1: One shall never lose the data. One shall save the data. One shall always back up the data. One shall always test restore the data. One shall lose job if lose the data.
      ^^^
      In this case, one has to wonder how long RS is going to be around as the rest of their businesses get hit with the lack of trust.

      Now, the G00g lost a freaking huge amount of mailboxes something like a decade ago. We had a customer impacted by that. No redress. None. Back then there wasn't a disaster recovery structure in place where they could back up their data short of making regular .PST files. So, gone. It was all in the G. 😞

      For personal backups, I'm using MailStore Home (https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/). They have some business offerings that might be worth looking at regardless of your provider.

      Thanks for this.

      I have a client that doesn’t want to do M365 backups because they think a cloud provider won’t lose data.

      Remind them that Microsoft lost MY data!!

      Backstory?

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      Anyone been to Rackspace's website recently? I forgot that they even existed. I went to their website and realized why...

      https://www.rackspace.com

      This looks like an AI generated page of gibberish if you said "make a generic MSP page that says nothing."

      I'm seeing rumblings that business continuity for anyone on their Hosted Exchange is a total loss. So, if they are not Outlook enabled and thus able to export their mailbox to a .PST file, or other such client that can do so, they are totally and completely hooped.

      Sacrosanct Edict #1: One shall never lose the data. One shall save the data. One shall always back up the data. One shall always test restore the data. One shall lose job if lose the data.
      ^^^
      In this case, one has to wonder how long RS is going to be around as the rest of their businesses get hit with the lack of trust.

      Now, the G00g lost a freaking huge amount of mailboxes something like a decade ago. We had a customer impacted by that. No redress. None. Back then there wasn't a disaster recovery structure in place where they could back up their data short of making regular .PST files. So, gone. It was all in the G. 😞

      For personal backups, I'm using MailStore Home (https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/). They have some business offerings that might be worth looking at regardless of your provider.

      Thanks for this.

      I have a client that doesn’t want to do M365 backups because they think a cloud provider won’t lose data.

      It's right there in Microsoft's Ts&Cs. Oiy

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      Anyone been to Rackspace's website recently? I forgot that they even existed. I went to their website and realized why...

      https://www.rackspace.com

      This looks like an AI generated page of gibberish if you said "make a generic MSP page that says nothing."

      I'm seeing rumblings that business continuity for anyone on their Hosted Exchange is a total loss. So, if they are not Outlook enabled and thus able to export their mailbox to a .PST file, or other such client that can do so, they are totally and completely hooped.

      Sacrosanct Edict #1: One shall never lose the data. One shall save the data. One shall always back up the data. One shall always test restore the data. One shall lose job if lose the data.
      ^^^
      In this case, one has to wonder how long RS is going to be around as the rest of their businesses get hit with the lack of trust.

      Now, the G00g lost a freaking huge amount of mailboxes something like a decade ago. We had a customer impacted by that. No redress. None. Back then there wasn't a disaster recovery structure in place where they could back up their data short of making regular .PST files. So, gone. It was all in the G. 😞

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Rackspace Blocking Zoho Email

      @JasGot said in Rackspace Blocking Zoho Email:

      It also affected the Hosted Exchange servers they run for Intermedia.

      There's a military term that applies here: Cl-sterF-ck.

      Wow.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Rackspace Blocking Zoho Email

      @scottalanmiller said in Rackspace Blocking Zoho Email:

      About 25% of share value gone, wow.

      On the positive side they had segmentation so a degree of separation between their various operations.

      On the negative side if it was HAFNIUM, they didn't have IPS (Intrusion Protection) in front of their hosted Exchange as our SonicWALL units with IPS turned on got an update for HAFNIUM not long after it became commonplace.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Rackspace Blocking Zoho Email

      @scottalanmiller said in Rackspace Blocking Zoho Email:

      We have multiple customers all reporting the same thing, emails going from Zoho customers to Rackspace customers are being blocked by IP by Rackspace.

      It's bad. There's a number of articles out there that indicate that they were pretty far behind on their patching.

      My guess is HAFNIUM.

      They've moved everything over to O365. No going back.

      https://redmondmag.com/articles/2022/12/06/rackspace-confirms-ransomware-attack-on-hosted-exchange-service.aspx

      https://doublepulsar.com/rackspace-cloud-office-suffers-security-breach-958e6c755d7f

      https://status.apps.rackspace.com/index/viewincidents?group=2

      $40M ain't no chump change. :0(

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @nadnerB said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      5AF121D8-C369-4A34-81FF-3192BA873F1F.jpeg

      The three rules of boost:
      1: Something will break
      2: See #1
      3: See #1

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Data Erasure Software?

      @Yonah-S said in Data Erasure Software?:

      Hey all!

      So I am looking for a Data Erasure Software - something like Blancco but they are too expensive. Looking for something safe for a corporate environment but around $1k or so .

      Any ideas please?

      https://eraser.heidi.ie/
      We've been using this for about a decade and a half. It's free and just works.

      posted in IT Discussion
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @RojoLoco said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder I haven't seen too many deer this year, but the coyotes keep sounding closer and closer...

      Coyotes around us are really smart. One will set at the head of the drive and yip at a single dog place to sucker the dog out then the pack will jump them. Stripped in minutes.

      We have farm fence hung around the property to keep the dog in and the coyotes and foxes out.

      That doesn't stop the deer or moose though.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @RojoLoco said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
      EDIT: BTW, talking to Floridians at the event they thought I was nuts that I thought it was hilarious but they told me it was fairly common and that gators were very resilient. They also told me to never get out of the vehicle again as the gator could have been right p*ssed waiting to swallow me. :0)

      Sounds about like hitting a deer here, expect the whole swallowing thing.

      We were heading in to town early one morning. We'd just turned on to the two lane highway after a black RAM 1500 went by.

      We were about 10-15 car lengths behind him coming up to speed.

      We have a massive Canadian Bull Moose and his haram living around us.

      The bugger decided to cross the highway in front of the RAM in front of us. All I could see was the truck's brake lights. That's it. The truck was engulfed by the moose.

      The driver was fortunate to have missed the moose just barely.

      When we caught up to him in town I asked him if he needed to change his pants after clarifying that we were behind him. Yeah. He was still shaking a bit too.

      Deer weren't too bad this fall. It was weird. Moose not too bad either. It was a relatively quiet fall for animal hits around us. We're 15 minutes from the nearest town to the south and about 30 minutes from the city to the east of us.

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @RojoLoco said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @PhlipElder closest call I had in FL was nearly stepping on a HUGE rattlesnake on a golf course... luckily, he was in the process of eating a toad that was the size of a cantaloupe.

      I went to one of the last Ignite events in Orlando where there was a hurricane in the Gulf. I don't remember what it was called. Flights were screwy all over. When we eventually landed in Dallas (we were redirected initially to another airport to land and wait due to fuel concerns) there were no more flights to Orlando but one had room to Fort Meyers.

      Distance from Fort Meyers to Orlando = Edmonton to Calgary here. I've done that drive a lot so rented a Grand Caravan as I was pretty tired by then and didn't need 400bhp under the saddle.

      The GPS unit was too small. I missed the Interstate. I missed the next highway. I ended up taking the last one that would get me there but it went through every Tom, Dick, and Harry little town imagineable.

      I got to see Troopers wrestling a big brawl in the street in one town.

      In another, a big Ford 3500 dually Super Duty was driving with no lights so I flashed him a few times but he kept going. County Mounty took off from a gas station in front of me, crossed across my path while turning the cherries on, and headed off to stop the SD.

      In one town the GPS took me through an area that brought back memories. Heh ... No more comment there.

      But, the creme de la creme ...

      I'd just left a town with the street lights behind me. It's about 0200Hrs or thereabouts by now. I'm tired but am on the last leg to Orlando. So, clear pavement with a number of lanes in both directions. There's a moon so I can see pretty good plus the Grand Caravan's lights are pretty good.

      I see what I think is a Y pipe. Huh?
      Someone dropped their Y pipe?
      Nothing I could do as I didn't want to swerve to miss as that'd probably be worse than just hitting it.
      BANG! BUMP, bump, bump, bump. The van literally jumped around while it went under.
      I pulled over to make sure there was no oil pissing down. Nothing. Nada. Zippo. Zilch.
      I got back in the van and sat there for a bit playing it over and over. SOaB. The thing MOVED after I hit it heading off to my right and ... it was a freaking huge gator.
      The Y was its tail and its legs as I approached. It was sitting perfectly in line on the road.

      I LOVE telling that one to my fellow Canucks as it's HILARIOUS. I hit a freaking GATOR! LoL

      EDIT: BTW, talking to Floridians at the event they thought I was nuts that I thought it was hilarious but they told me it was fairly common and that gators were very resilient. They also told me to never get out of the vehicle again as the gator could have been right p*ssed waiting to swallow me. :0)

      posted in Water Closet
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    • RE: Random Thread - Anything Goes

      @nadnerB said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      I'm going to go with this being factual. It's not like anything on the Internet is made up or anything 😛
      e63dc4d6-0cce-4b00-bb0f-a0bab1888aa4-image.png

      Had a FL Warden grab me and pull me back from what I was doing. I'd crossed over the little 1.5" or 2" bar that was about 3" off the ground so looked more like a suggestion than an actual DO NOT GO HERE type of thing.

      There was a good 6' to 7' or more 'gator lying there that I wanted to get some pics of.

      I'm sure if he could he would have called me a fucking ID10T right there but he was pretty polite about it. My buddy just stood there laughing. He was probably waiting for the bite. Bugger ...

      posted in Water Closet
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