Carnival Boy is pretty much on target. Sell the sizzle, not the steak. In initial meetings we give high level assessments, and explain the devil is in the details. Like Carnival Boy, we give a ballpark range, and then if they want a hard static quote, we would charge for that analysis.
If it is an RFQ, we always put a disclaimer that if the actual environment is different then the RFQ there would be additional charges. Plus we always pad hard RFQ proposals with a buffer for the unknown.
@Jimmy9008 Anytime - let us know if you run into any issues
And SIDs don't apply to Linux - that's a windows thing
You should be fine - make sure you change the host name and if it is statically assigned, you will have to give it another address.
I'm usually up early, so I tend to be the one waking people up 
Only coffee this AM... On a side bar (pardon the pun), some people - I won't mention names here to protect the guilty - Have been giving me a hard time about drinking milk. I like milk. I find it refreshing and delicious. I do, however, drink quite a bit of milk. Usually in large glasses. That said, are there others here that are milk drinkers too?
The CLEC at my last gig didn't even try to hide the fact. They told us outright that they were giving us PRI tagging via SIP
Not in anyway related to SkyNet right?
@smitherick said in MangoCon 2019 Venue Announcement:
Sounds fun, going to have to make this happen.
Glad to hear - It should be a good time and a great conference. The area is fairly new, but plenty of things to do in the area. We're planning on a couple of events that should turn out to be a good time.
@dashrender said in MangoCon 2019:
Won't know until A) there is a list of topics and B ) likely after the new year.
What topics would make it attractive to you and your company?
Welcome all - Glad to have you here. I'm Paul Chiodo, and I am the CEO for NTG and MangoLassi.it I know I am not in the community as often as I would like, but I do monitor the threads and check in from time to time.
Should you ever have any problems or just wish to discuss something, please drop me a PM and I will get back to you.
Again, welcome, and it's great to have you here.
Paul
Just three days until the eleventh annual SpiceWorld in Austin. Been a few years since I had a chance to make it. I can't go down Sunday for early stuff, but am going to be there for the event starting on Monday. Looking forward to seeing loads of familiar faces. Who should I be looking for?
While we are on the subject of MangoCon, what do ya'll (It's a texas thing) want for sessions? Specific topics?
I'm old school... I use sticky notes.... They're everywhere! It doesn't work, but it's what I use.
Mine is gone too Microcrap strikes again
@jaredbusch said in Does any one have a EdgeRouter 4 online and can test L2TP:
KE:AES_CBC_128/HMAC_SHA1_96/PRF_HMAC_SHA1/ECP_256, IKE:AES_CBC_256/HMAC_SHA1_96/PRF_HMAC_SHA1/MODP_2048, IKE:3DES_C
Just from a cursory look, it appears you are missing some required proposals. The first one sent appears to be matched, but the others do not.
Eating awesome Tuna Steak, Salt Potatoes, and Sweet and Sour Veggies with @scottalanmiller and @Dominica and Jim.
""We will still be launching new products but prior to launching them we are sitting down and trying to think of all the possible bad uses of them and what bad actors might do with them, and how do we mitigate those things,” says Facebook CTO Mike Schroepfer.""
And you never thought about this before? This is either a bold faced lie, or total incompetence.
Drinking coffee, planning my Friday - Happy Friday everyone!!!