@scottalanmiller said:

Well it is pretty early yet but no showstopping issues. And CloudatCost is watching and soliciting feedback very strongly here which is a great sign. It's a nascent service from an established vendor, so I'd expect some bumps along the road.

I've had several setup issues with the initial box builds failing in a couple different ways (probably all one way but with it showing up a few different ways.) But those are minor, you just hit the rebuild till it works. Haven't seen an issue yet once it is built. So "pre-build" issues only cause a small delay in getting an initial system set up, which to me is minor. Should be addressed, sure, but it's minor as it does not impact running production.

But it is early yet, testing is just getting started.

Thanks for the update @scottalanmiller . I currently use digitalocean and (knock on wood) have never ran into any issues. The price that cloudatcost offers is really attractive and makes me want to switch, but I don't want to jump on board if its going to cause me headaches.

So I see alot of people trying Cloud at cost. I was just wondering how it is going for everyone? Looking around the web, all I see is people having issue with cloud at cost. Alot of people on twitter are complaining, there is even a web page Cloudatacost with one man's struggle and some fan art below.

I'm glad I ran into this thread, CloudatCost looks like some good stuff.

@lance Only issue I've found with it that I have gotten used to is the small right shift key.

I have a Tex Beetle and love it!

@scottalanmiller This is awesome! Thanks!

http://fox13now.com/2014/12/29/united-airlines-sues-22-year-old-who-found-method-for-buying-cheaper-plane-tickets/

http://bencane.com/2014/12/30/building-self-healing-applications-with-salt-api/

Relaxing, before I start painting my home office.

@cakeis_not_alie said:

@lance "I work for a non-profit and helped other non-profits and I really can't relate to this rant at all."

Yeah, you know, the non-profit guys I work with never seem to have much in the way of problems.

The biggest issue I have seen in non-profit IT is the issue of having enough staff. I think almost any non-profit or for profit IT guy that you work with could relate to this.

@cakeis_not_alie said:

@lance "I work for a non-profit and helped other non-profits and I really can't relate to this rant at all."

Yeah, you know, the non-profit guys I work with never seem to have much in the way of problems. They get hardware and software they need pretty easily. The biggest issue they have is typically that they get a bunch of stuff they can't use/don't need and then have to reach out to their network of non=profit sysadmins to redistribute.

It's true we get software really cheap, but hardware is another story. I'm not going to accept hardware that costs more to maintain that it is worth, which is the instance in most cases.

@Nic said:

I wonder if the non-profit world might be a good place to connect with other shoe-string IT folks. I know techsoup has some forums, although I don't know how active they are.

I work for a non-profit and helped other non-profits and I really can't relate to this rant at all.

@JaredBusch That's a bummer.

@MattSpeller Good to hear.

@scottalanmiller said:

We forms is considered very legacy. If you are doing something new use MVC.

MVC is the standard architecture for all web designs, not just .NET. You should have a pretty good technical reason to consider a different approach.

Look at Ruby, PHP and Python too rather than C#. Better cross platform options, less technical debt.

I just read another article about ASP.NET the TLDR was below. Do you are agree with something like this?

Microsoft’s ASP.NET is too restrictive and costs too much. Microsoft’s target audience builds products that are generally poorly written and lag 4-8 years behind the current platform version. Other open platforms can be used with little to no cost and lower overall cost of ownership.

I was wondering what people favor, webforms or MVC?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/16/chrome_devs_hatch_plan_to_mark_all_http_traffic_insecure/

@SeanExablox said:

@lance said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@lance said:

Another thing to remember when comparing it to a windows server is that windows servers don’t have dedupe, CDP, backup target, replication, scale out, and cloud management.

What Windows Server are you using? Windows has scale out, replication, dedupe, compression, etc.

Cloud management is nice, but just use LogMeIn and you have that with Windows. Easy peasy.

It looks like Server 2012 introduced dedup, I guess you learn something new every day. Thanks

yes Server 2012 has file dedupe, but I don't believe it a dedupe target for Backup Exec, Veeam, others. Moreover, without CDP (immutable) it's not a persistent protection scheme for primary data.

Gotcha

@scottalanmiller said:

@lance said:

Another thing to remember when comparing it to a windows server is that windows servers don’t have dedupe, CDP, backup target, replication, scale out, and cloud management.

What Windows Server are you using? Windows has scale out, replication, dedupe, compression, etc.

Cloud management is nice, but just use LogMeIn and you have that with Windows. Easy peasy.

It looks like Server 2012 introduced dedup, I guess you learn something new every day. Thanks

@MattSpeller said:

My stumbling block with them while doing my research seems to be the $/GB

For $10k (my assumed cost of a single OneBlox) you can get a kick ass server with really sexy stuff

Another thing to remember when comparing it to a windows server is that windows file servers don’t have dedupe, CDP, backup target, replication, scale out, and cloud management.