@DustinB3403 said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

So which is it?

It's mainly a few newer laptops and CAD workstations where we're looking to pay for a new licence. As I wrote!

When the upgrade was offered for free, the business could've gone ahead, upgraded got the key for that device and then rolled it back to Windows 7.

I know. And for some businesses that wasn't deemed cost effective or appropriate. As we've already discussed. You seem to think anyone who made that business decision is an idiot, don't you?

Now that the window for this has passed it's time to buck up, Microsoft was extremely fair with this roll-out of Windows 10.

No-one has said they haven't been, have they? Although I think $250 is a bit over-priced, but I'm guessing the reason is that they don't want to further antagonise the OEMS who need to shift new Windows 10 hardware.

@DustinB3403 said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

Now I didn't call you an idiot. I said if people haven't upgraded when it was free they're idiots and should have to pay for it if they want to upgrade.

Well, I'm obviously one of these people as I wouldn't have started the thread otherwise, would I? Of course I should have to pay for it, Microsoft has been clear on that from the start.

That's what we're generally doing. I've upgraded a few older Windows 7 PCs with SSDs, more RAM and Windows 10 and the results haven't been very satisfactory even when the OS upgrade was free, so I'm definitely not paying £190. It's mainly a few newer laptops and CAD workstations where we're looking to pay for a new licence.

Correct. That was exactly our case. That's what I meant by "didn't have resources available".

My calculations were based on a predicting that the upgrade licence would be closer to £100 than £200, but still, I don't think that makes me an idiot as @DustinB3403 is claiming. I intended this thread to be about how to upgrade Windows 7 now it is not free, not to discuss how to run old, unsupported applications in Windows 10 or how much of an idiot I am.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/hp-elite-x2-1012-g1-1309302/review

Anyone have any experience of them? I've got one on trial at the moment and think I prefer it to the Surface (mainly because I prefer dealing with HP).

Personally, I'm not a fan of 2-in-1 PC/Tablets, preferring to work with a traditional laptop and a seperate iPad Mini - combining the two into one device is too much of a compromise - but other people seem to love them. I do really like the stylus though and could see myself taking handwritten notes in meetings with it (which I've never managed to do with an iPad).

I'm thinking of buying a dozen for our Sales Reps.

That first one on your list at $130 looks like OEM. We currently pay a lot more for licences in the UK because 51% of our idiot population opted to screw up our economy leave the EU, so our currency is now nearly worthless.

@scottalanmiller said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

They have a lot of interest still in phasing out Windows 7.

You'd think, but I'm told that there's no upgrade pricing and I would have to pay full price which is $250. That seems a bit excessive. I was expecting it to be half that.

@DustinB3403 said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

Have you tried to install MDAC into Windows 10 and then see if these programs will work?

Yes. IIRC, I couldn't get MDAC to install at all.

You're not being mean, it is what it is. We have a lot of specialist engineering software that is, to say the least, pretty old. The intention is to replace it and to upgrade to Windows 10. Hence the ultimate need to upgrade at some point in the future. HENCE THE THREAD!!

Upgrading 3rd party software isn't always possible, or desirable. We have an application that requires MDAC (Microsoft Data Access Components). I couldn't find any way of installing this in Windows 10, never mind running it in compatibility mode.

What if they couldn't upgrade because their software applications didn't support Windows 10?

Or because they didn't have the resources available to perform the upgrades (I don't believe it was a trivial task).

@DustinB3403 said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:

it's purely on them...ijits...

Not sure what you mean by this. Companies will not have been able/wanted to upgrade whilst it was free, and now they will. That's reasonable. I'm just interested if anyone has started to go through this process, or is planning to.

Anyone done it?

Or anyone sneakily upgraded for free by pretending to need "Assistive Technologies" which means Microsoft will still allow you to upgrade for free?

Name names!

@scottalanmiller said in Why is Hyper-V More Confusing:

in the real world, actual Windows admins are really, really unable to figure Hyper-V out. They are totally lost (at least in nearly all cases over the years that I've seen.. and it is a huge majority

Really? Wow. It's hardly rocket science. What is wrong with these people? Maybe I should become a Windows admin and blow these people away.

@Breffni-Potter said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

....so please hold.

Take your time - I've already waited a year.

Although if I come in to work tomorrow and find my laptop has been stolen and there's a note on my desk that says "I win, love from Breffni", you'll have taken the challenge too far.

Is that your long-winded way of admitting defeat in my challenge

@Breffni-Potter said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

@Carnival-Boy said in To Password Protect a network folder or not:

It's not too late to try

True.

I do know of 1 very sneaky trick though to instantly get the data.

7ZIP stores a copy of the unencrypted file in the Windows temp directory.

Nice try. But 7Zip stores a copy in MY Windows temp directory, not yours. How do you propose getting access to my temp directory?

We use Trello. Free and everyone seems to love it. Tried Asana for a while but prefer Trello.