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@scottalanmiller said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

@bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

At least it doesn't require on-premises AD. It's "all cloud".

Sort of but the way you are saying it is wrong. It's the same "on premises AD" that you run, it's just hosted elsewhere, the same as we've always done. So it's nothing new. We were doing AD on Azure or AD on Vultr long before there was Azure AD.

If that is all that you are getting, you can spin up a Windows instance on Vultr, make it a DC, install your VPN of choice and ta da.

Yes, it's "all cloud" but AD was always all cloud by that logic.

The difference seems to be that you cant access that VM or manage it. And from what I am reading there are some differences between the Azure AD DC on a premise AD deployment. I will search back and post.

Because I didn't control a VM and DCPROMO in that whole process.

@scottalanmiller said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:

@bigbear said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:

I was actually looking for something supporting RemoteFX.

The issue with RemoteFX is server side. You can't do it on any hosted platform as only Hyper-V is supported for it.

Well that is something I am going to have to immediately test out on Vultr, because I am assuming that RemoteFX is the reason for all the video streaming working so well. But I have only used it on Azure...

I was actually looking for something supporting RemoteFX. At the moment (using a windows 10 station as a client) I could watch Netflix and YouTube through my RDHS session. Pretty impressive.

From a Linux or OSX client, terrible.

I was about to buy some low end SSD based desktops with Win10 installed. But I assume the newer thin clients based on Wind10 with RemoteFX support would be just as good.

I am going by RAM looking at the $80 Virtual vs $120 dedicated for about 10 users. The CPU power would be wasted according to Microsoft documentation on our small 10 person deployment.

I am figuring the $40 extra is worth it for consistency for an RDSH environment. On a web app or anything else that wouldn't bother me. The loss of snapshots has me on the fence but there are plenty of options for full fidelity backup.

Now if the bigger virtual machines were somehow less likely to have "noisy neighbors" I would reconsider.

Magolassi needs a beer money feature, truly.. thanks!

Alsoc @scottalanmiller you had mentioned NY/NJ is the "good data center" lol. If I'm 10 hours for NYC and 5 Hours from Chicago should I still go to NYC/Jersey? There is BLOB storage there...

The only advantage I can think of for virtual over dedicated is the snapshots. I feel like going dedicated would eliminate performance risks.

Head spinning...

Still not as confusing as Azure though...

@scottalanmiller said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:

These days, there are so many things that you want to do via HTML, traditional thin clients don't make sense the way that they did. And the power to run a full Linux desktop on even Raspberry Pi hardware, there is just no value to old thin clients.

What would you use for RDSH clients then?

@scottalanmiller said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

@bigbear said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

Anyway with the RDSH server I am deploying I don't want to risk any "noisy neighbors" so that caught my I. Incredible value in cost vs Azure, which I initially completely miscalculated.

Generally you do want to risk noisy neighbours. That's how you get better performance. Like many things in IT, the cost of guaranteeing performance is generally so high that only in very rare circumstances would you want it. For example, do you want guaranteed low performance all the time? Or be really fast 99% of the time but fluctuate?

Looking at specs for RDSH and the dedicated instances vs Virtual.. I only need so much RAM and so many CPU cores.

So the cost of going dedicated vs virtual is about the same. Would it make the most sense in that case for me to go dedicated for this instance?

At least it doesn't require on-premises AD. It's "all cloud". It just seems like they are deploying a traditional or perhaps publicly unavailable version of AD to instances you can't see.

I have found a couple Microsoft-supported ways to use RDS on Vultr. There is a workgroup mode and a Microsoft support article says deploying AD on the RDS server is appropriate in small environments where there is one server. I could then at least sync to Office 365.

I was also looking at JumpCloud, some kind of cloud directory service probably similar to Amazons. I could possibly join 2016 server to that and sync that back with Office 365. But I haven't seen anyone talking about it out there.

@scottalanmiller said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

@bigbear said in Vultr & abusive neighbors:

Kicking this thread back up because I am looking at RDSH on Vultr vs Azure. Are dedicated instances bare metal?

No one would use bare metal. It would make them a laughingstock and no one could ever talk about them as a business class vendor again. And it would be unnecessarily costly and weird. It's just dedicated.

Yeah I was actually hoping it was not bare-metal and that it was at least a dedicated VM running on its own blade with some redundancy etc.

But I see what you are seeing, the resources are dedicated to that VM in KVM I suppose?

Anyway with the RDSH server I am deploying I don't want to risk any "noisy neighbors" so that caught my I. Incredible value in cost vs Azure, which I initially completely miscalculated.

And I am curious to see if Vultr has less latency than Azure at this point.

@scottalanmiller I was actually looking at the $60 and $120 versions.

Was just thinking... click - click and I am up and running vs ordering and shipping to colo and using all the tools to install my software remotely.

At the $240 price point I agree with you though.

Dropping a note on this. Azure AD Domain Controller services does actually charge a minimum of .15/hour, so there is a $90 minimum cost for enabling this feature.

Not really a deal killer, but as @scottalanmiller alluded to they seem to spin up an S1 instance that you cant control and manage that NTLM/Domain Controller part for you.

Kicking this thread back up because I am looking at RDSH on Vultr vs Azure. Are dedicated instances bare metal?

Ironically their marketing for dedicated instances clearly says "Goodbye Noisy Neighbors" I cant imagine a dedicated blade (guessing a single vm on KVM running on a blade) for the prices they offer.

I was looking at some HP thin clients like this.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Thin-Client-t620-Flexible/dp/B00JFC2JDK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496960291&sr=8-2&keywords=HP+thin+clients

Wasn't sure how to check to see where I lose anything in the new RDP (like Remote FX).

@scottalanmiller Bahaha

I found a few high end thin clients I like, now looking for the basic, bare minimum thin clients for RDSH 2016 Office workers. Just running office and basic apps.

I dont want to deal with zero client boothing of an OS just to run as a thin client. Just a pure thin client.

Any suggestions are appreciated!

@scottalanmiller I like the firmware's UI elements, but thats about where it ends. I am still waiting for yealink to send me a license to sign in and see the rest.

It may be better then Microsoft Response Point.... maybe lol

@Tim_G said in Kooler on DFS-R Issues:

@KOOLER said in Kooler on DFS-R Issues:

@JaredBusch said in Kooler on DFS-R Issues:

All I want is a clarification on what licenses are supposedly required here.

That you can do something on a Microsoft OS (Hyper-V in this case) means nothing. Microsoft has never been about locked down compliance.

If it requires a Server 2012 R2 license and then CALS, it is simply Server 2012R2 + Hyper-V roles, even if you only installed Hyper-V Server 2012 R2.

If it somehow only requires user CALS, then great.

Nah, you don't need anything except CALs.

That doesn't make sense to me... that you can clearly violate the license terms and the whole point of Hyper-V Server as long as you have CALs?

What licenses would you resolve it with?

@manxam Its a german consulting group I think. they have a site up called Konnect.io

The guy just sent me a link earlier today to the trial

http://trial.konnekt.io/releases/index.html?channel=Release

In case you dont want to fill out the demo form.

Right now they are selling for $25 lifetime license per user. I imagine its because they know the Files On Demand from MS for Onedrive will eventually be a reality.

Im gonna be testing it out tomorrow. If you try it I would be interested to get your feedback on your use cases.

Why Microsoft cant do what a small consultancy can still blows my man. But I am sure Files On Demand is probably a major ground up redesign.

@KOOLER originally we were talking about Hyper-V free but @scottalanmiller indicated it requires a CAL for whatever that SAN product is

Which I guess runs on Windows server???

The linked article in OP says hyper-v free