Thin Clients for RDSH 2016
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I just had experience with an HP MyBook (or something like that) Laptop Thin client... I was not impressed for Remote Desktop stuff... It simply didn't work well and you had to fiddle with options even then.
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Has anyone tried this on a raspberry Pi 3: https://winterminal.com/#wtware
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@StuartJordan said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
Has anyone tried this on a raspberry Pi 3: https://winterminal.com/#wtware
Looks interesting.
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@scottalanmiller Bahaha
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I was looking at some HP thin clients like this.
Wasn't sure how to check to see where I lose anything in the new RDP (like Remote FX).
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@bigbear said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
I found a few high end thin clients I like, now looking for the basic, bare minimum thin clients for RDSH 2016 Office workers. Just running office and basic apps.
I dont want to deal with zero client boothing of an OS just to run as a thin client. Just a pure thin client.
Any suggestions are appreciated!
I deal often with thin-zero client, and I really don't like it.
They need updates less often than regular desktop, but still.
Their managing solutions are usually costly piece of software that also need to be managed etc.Other than that, they cannot be used for anything else than "be a thin client", and usually cost as much as a business desktop of the same league.
I advice you against it, my suggestion is a micro form-factor desktop like dell optiplex micro with a locked down, read-only Linux. You can make it by yourself or use pre-made ones like thinox.
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These days, there are so many things that you want to do via HTML, traditional thin clients don't make sense the way that they did. And the power to run a full Linux desktop on even Raspberry Pi hardware, there is just no value to old thin clients.
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@scottalanmiller said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
These days, there are so many things that you want to do via HTML, traditional thin clients don't make sense the way that they did. And the power to run a full Linux desktop on even Raspberry Pi hardware, there is just no value to old thin clients.
What would you use for RDSH clients then?
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@bigbear said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
@scottalanmiller said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
These days, there are so many things that you want to do via HTML, traditional thin clients don't make sense the way that they did. And the power to run a full Linux desktop on even Raspberry Pi hardware, there is just no value to old thin clients.
What would you use for RDSH clients then?
Depends on your needs. There are dedicated "thin client" OS variants, normally running Linux. Or just a normal Linux client on the desktop lime Remina.
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I was actually looking for something supporting RemoteFX. At the moment (using a windows 10 station as a client) I could watch Netflix and YouTube through my RDHS session. Pretty impressive.
From a Linux or OSX client, terrible.
I was about to buy some low end SSD based desktops with Win10 installed. But I assume the newer thin clients based on Wind10 with RemoteFX support would be just as good.
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@bigbear said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
I was actually looking for something supporting RemoteFX. At the moment (using a windows 10 station as a client) I could watch Netflix and YouTube through my RDHS session. Pretty impressive.
And doesn't just about everything support it? It's just part of RDP.
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@bigbear said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
I was actually looking for something supporting RemoteFX.
The issue with RemoteFX is server side. You can't do it on any hosted platform as only Hyper-V is supported for it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
@bigbear said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
I was actually looking for something supporting RemoteFX.
The issue with RemoteFX is server side. You can't do it on any hosted platform as only Hyper-V is supported for it.
Well that is something I am going to have to immediately test out on Vultr, because I am assuming that RemoteFX is the reason for all the video streaming working so well. But I have only used it on Azure...
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@bigbear said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
From a Linux or OSX client, terrible.
Then you screwed something up, because Linux supports RemoteFX
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Linux RemoteFX support is at the RDP8 level. This is true for every Linux thin client, because they all use a tuned version of FreeRDP. The microsoft client is at version 10.
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@Francesco-Provino said in Thin Clients for RDSH 2016:
Linux RemoteFX support is at the RDP8 level. This is true for every Linux thin client, because they all use a tuned version of FreeRDP. The microsoft client is at version 10.
How much of a difference is there?
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Wikipedia says:
In Windows Server 2016 (RDP 10), the following components were added to RemoteFX.
- OpenGL 4.4 and OpenCL 1.1 API support in a virtual machine with the RemoteFX adapter
- More dedicated VRAM for the RemoteFX adapter
- Various performance improvements in transport and API implementations
RemoteFX Media Streaming replaced Multi Media Redirection (MMR). Note: MMR is now completely removed from RDP 10 given that RemoteFX Media Streaming works for all types of video content whereas MMR which just worked for some.
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@scottalanmiller I don't know if wiki report every difference between versions, but I know for sure that the last version of MS RDP client on WAN works much better than FreeRDP &co.
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Running on vultr I can stream youtube seamlessly just fine. Stunning actually.
So I am assuming there is no RemoteFX being used since Vultr is KVM and it requires Hyper-V.
Or some other changes have taken place in 2016. Its actually more responsive than the Azure VM.
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As I side note, non-Microsoft RDP clients suck so far. winterminal and thinlinx both are barely usable. Have tried to Azure and Vultr as well as a remote Win10 box. Horrible.
I have a couple HP thin clients arriving tomorrow to test out.
I am also going to give Citrix a try.
