Just curious on what was the reasons given for the switch to Telegram to your friends @scottalanmiller apart from the desktop app

Secure messaging score card from EFF

https://www.eff.org/node/82654

@scottalanmiller said in Franz messaging app:

@Ambarishrh said in Franz messaging app:

Bit confused, the discussion is now how Telegram and such are not secure and yet i can see that you've converted all to Telegram! Am i understanding this right?

You are making a big assumption... that we are doing it for security reasons. That's the mistake.

So what was the reason for the switch from Whatsapp to Telegram?

@scottalanmiller said in Franz messaging app:

@BRRABill said in Franz messaging app:

@JaredBusch said in Franz messaging app:

@BRRABill said in Franz messaging app:

@JaredBusch said in Franz messaging app:

Someone mentioned this app here a while back and I tried it out.

Did not really like it. I should give it another try.

I liked the concept, but it missing AIM was a deal breaker for me. Still have a lot of friends/contacts on AIM.

eww, wtf.. down vote...

Not my choice. I've converted everyone I can to Telegram. It's really just a few stragglers I need to talk with.

They have SMS, but I'm hate typing long messages/conversations
on my phone.

Same here, I've converted most.

Bit confused, the discussion is now how Telegram and such are not secure and yet i can see that you've converted all to Telegram! Am i understanding this right?

@Ambarishrh said in Franz messaging app:

@scottalanmiller said in Franz messaging app:

@BRRABill said in Franz messaging app:

@JaredBusch said in Franz messaging app:

@BRRABill said in Franz messaging app:

@JaredBusch said in Franz messaging app:

Someone mentioned this app here a while back and I tried it out.

Did not really like it. I should give it another try.

I liked the concept, but it missing AIM was a deal breaker for me. Still have a lot of friends/contacts on AIM.

eww, wtf.. down vote...

Not my choice. I've converted everyone I can to Telegram. It's really just a few stragglers I need to talk with.

They have SMS, but I'm hate typing long messages/conversations
on my phone.

Same here, I've converted most.

I remember reading an article about Telegram security!

http://gizmodo.com/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-right-now-1782557415

And looks like signal is currently the most secure chat platform according to various sources. https://whispersystems.org/

These are the guys who provided end-to-end encryption to whatsapp, now recently for FB and Google Alo.

https://whispersystems.org/blog/facebook-messenger/

https://whispersystems.org/blog/allo/

@scottalanmiller said in Franz messaging app:

@BRRABill said in Franz messaging app:

@JaredBusch said in Franz messaging app:

@BRRABill said in Franz messaging app:

@JaredBusch said in Franz messaging app:

Someone mentioned this app here a while back and I tried it out.

Did not really like it. I should give it another try.

I liked the concept, but it missing AIM was a deal breaker for me. Still have a lot of friends/contacts on AIM.

eww, wtf.. down vote...

Not my choice. I've converted everyone I can to Telegram. It's really just a few stragglers I need to talk with.

They have SMS, but I'm hate typing long messages/conversations
on my phone.

Same here, I've converted most.

I remember reading an article about Telegram security!

http://gizmodo.com/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-right-now-1782557415

@coliver said in Franz messaging app:

@Dashrender said in Franz messaging app:

I am now made to wonder how good the security on these types of apps are. I never really thought about it in the past, but things have changed.

What do you mean? Most of them have an API that other apps (like Franz) can make calls to. Really it is no more or less secure then the default application... at least as far as the in-transit data is concerned. At rest that may be different.

its just a wrapper which uses the web views, not really a native software. Franz just uses the web UIs of all these services, basically you get to see everything (whatsapp, Slack etc) from one window. Only thing is few apps connection is not via https

http://meetfranz.com/

A free messaging app that combines chat & messaging services into one application. Franz currently supports Slack, WhatsApp, WeChat, HipChat, Facebook Messenger, Telegram, Google Hangouts, GroupMe, Skype and many more. You can download Franz for Mac, Windows & Linux.

Another Electron based app

Yes, it supports most Debian-based distros, so yeah a VM with that and give its IP as DNS would work too

https://pi-hole.net

Youtube Video

Try explainshell.com to get an explanation for almost any Linux command.
http://explainshell.com/

@DustinB3403 said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

@Ambarishrh You're welcome, sorry I didn't have the exact answer for you.

But that really helped me to find the right solution

Thanks @DustinB3403 for the help and pointers.

@scottalanmiller said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

@Ambarishrh said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

@scottalanmiller said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

@DustinB3403 said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

Why use a delete function, wouldn't rsync automatically remove any files that are not in the source from the target?

Yes, it will do that.

If am not mistaken, plain rsync just syncs the difference to destination but does not deletes anything

But you always select your flags, you never just use vanilla.

But what was mentioned earlier

@DustinB3403 said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

Why use a delete function, wouldn't rsync automatically remove any files that are not in the source from the target?

From looking this up, other people have had similar issues, where using rsync -a --delete is effectively not rsyncing the files at all.

Final script:

#Cleanup old backup files
rm -f /home/ACCOUNT_NAME/BACKUP_FOLDER/*

#Insert date and a random key (key added to use it on public url to avoid guessing of public download link)
date=$(date +%Y-%m-%d)
key=$(head /dev/urandom | md5sum | cut -c1-10)

#MySQLdump of the account to the backup folder
mysqldump -uDB_USER -pDB_PASSWORD --single-transaction DB_NAME 2>&1 | gzip > /home/ACCOUNT_NAME/BACKUP_FOLDER/backup-${date}-${key}_SITE_NAME.sql.gz

#Compress the web directory and sql backup to a single backup file
tar czf /home/ACCOUNT_NAME/BACKUP_FOLDER/backup-${date}-${key}_SITE_NAME.tgz /home/ACCOUNT_NAME/public_html /home/ACCOUNT_NAME/BACKUP_FOLDER/backup-${date}-${key}_SITE_NAME.sql.gz 2> /dev/null

#Rsync the final backup file to remote server, also cleanup existing old backup prior to the transfer by comparing source directory
rsync -a --delete /home/ACCOUNT_NAME/BACKUP_FOLDER/ REMOTE_USER@REMOTE_SERVER_URL:/home/ACCOUNT_NAME/public_html/SITE_NAME_BACKUP/

#Email the backup link
echo "Latest backup is available at http://REMOTE_SERVER_URL/SITE_NAME_BACKUP/backup-${date}-${key}_SITE_NAME.tgz" | mail -s "Server backup available for download" [email protected]

@DustinB3403 said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

I wonder if --delete-excluded is the required approach with this, as it accounts for wildcards..

According the manual --delete-excluded is for use cases where you're using the wildcard flag. So it would remove the folder and contents, rather than just the contents of a particular folder.

Fixed it! So the issue on my case was that i was transferring a file and adding --delete switch, whereas the --delete only works with a folder.

--delete

This tells rsync to delete extraneous files from the receiving side (ones that aren’t on the sending side), but only for the directories that are being synchronized. You must have asked rsync to send the whole directory (e.g. "dir" or "dir/") without using a wildcard for the directory’s contents (e.g. "dir/*") since the wildcard is expanded by the shell and rsync thus gets a request to transfer individual files, not the files’ parent directory. Files that are excluded from the transfer are also excluded from being deleted unless you use the --delete-excluded option or mark the rules as only matching on the sending side (see the include/exclude modifiers in the FILTER RULES section).

So i updated my script and added the backup files to a dir and synced that, all works fine as expected.

@scottalanmiller said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

@DustinB3403 said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

Why use a delete function, wouldn't rsync automatically remove any files that are not in the source from the target?

Yes, it will do that.

If am not mistaken, plain rsync just syncs the difference to destination but does not deletes anything

I do have a * on the file but without that i can't get the new file created

@DustinB3403 said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

rsync -avz --ignore-existing --recursive --delete

Tried that as well!
sending incremental file list
backup-2016-10-10-16694c6b59_dur.tgz
582776973 100% 75.96MB/s 0:00:07 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1)

sent 582972731 bytes received 31 bytes 77729701.60 bytes/sec
total size is 582776973 speedup is 1.00

Copies the new file but doesnt do anything with old

@Ambarishrh said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

@DustinB3403 said in Doubt on a script- Backup site & DB:

Here is a topic from the ubuntu forums.

Are you trying to delete files from the source or the destination?

If from the destination

"rsync -avh source/ dest/ --delete"

Might be how you need to enter the command.

The first line on the script cleans up old backup files, so during rsync i want to compare the source and destination and cleanup accordingly. I will try with the --delete at the end and see if that helps

That didn't work!