Hours I work/PTO
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@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
Every so often I realize I know very little about a country I live so close to.
What in the name of F...
No paid vacation days? Gooooooooooooooooooooood grief.
How do you not know this? I thought that America's insane lack of employee protections and quality of life issues were common knowledge.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
@coliver said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@BBigford said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Glad I've never worked in a shit whole company like that.
Even the retail companies I've worked for never did crap like that. Every employee received PTO, a minimum of 2 weeks of whatever the average number of hours you work in a week (not sure where that average came from when you've been there less than a year).
Sick time is something that I don't think I've ever had - it's all just PTO, all lumped together, take it how you need it.
My current employer gives three weeks from day one (but it's on an accrual basis, so you don't actually have any PTO on the books until after the first pay period).
...and that is why I'd love to work outside the USA. Common consensus is the average US company is not the greatest to work for in comparison to the average company in the UK or Canada. Never worked outside the US before so I have no opinion on that. I just know I've never been happy with any company I work for.
Sounds like you just need a new employer. But, the flexibility for your classes might not exist, so perhaps you're stuck. It sounds like they are paying you a good wage though, at least you seem to think it's good.
As for your condition where you refuse to allow you to work 40 hours (30 is actually considered full time in many states and assuming they provide benefits like paid vacation time and health insurance, you would be entitled to that - personally I'd visit your city's business affairs office (or whatever it's called) and ask what the city/state requirements for employers is. And if you want to push it... inform the state and watch how things change. though the company sounds so horrible, it's just as likely that they will reduce your hours further to get you under the requirements. But your sacrifice would be good for the other employees.
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Oh, it's not about having a 30 hour work week, it's simply a definition of what qualifies as full time to get full benefits. If you work 30+ hours in a week, in Nebraska you are considered full time, and as such you must get all the same benefits as someone working 40 hrs/wk. The idea, I think, is to prevent employers from hiring someone, only allowing them to work say 32 hours a week and then not having to give them full time employee benefits.
Ah, okay. NY might be like that. But 32 hours is what sticks in my head.
32 hours is the threshold for benefits and insurance as a full time worker in NY. Which is why a lot of companies, around here, manage hours to prevent people from being able to work more then 30 hours a week.
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@coliver said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
@coliver said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@BBigford said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Glad I've never worked in a shit whole company like that.
Even the retail companies I've worked for never did crap like that. Every employee received PTO, a minimum of 2 weeks of whatever the average number of hours you work in a week (not sure where that average came from when you've been there less than a year).
Sick time is something that I don't think I've ever had - it's all just PTO, all lumped together, take it how you need it.
My current employer gives three weeks from day one (but it's on an accrual basis, so you don't actually have any PTO on the books until after the first pay period).
...and that is why I'd love to work outside the USA. Common consensus is the average US company is not the greatest to work for in comparison to the average company in the UK or Canada. Never worked outside the US before so I have no opinion on that. I just know I've never been happy with any company I work for.
Sounds like you just need a new employer. But, the flexibility for your classes might not exist, so perhaps you're stuck. It sounds like they are paying you a good wage though, at least you seem to think it's good.
As for your condition where you refuse to allow you to work 40 hours (30 is actually considered full time in many states and assuming they provide benefits like paid vacation time and health insurance, you would be entitled to that - personally I'd visit your city's business affairs office (or whatever it's called) and ask what the city/state requirements for employers is. And if you want to push it... inform the state and watch how things change. though the company sounds so horrible, it's just as likely that they will reduce your hours further to get you under the requirements. But your sacrifice would be good for the other employees.
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Oh, it's not about having a 30 hour work week, it's simply a definition of what qualifies as full time to get full benefits. If you work 30+ hours in a week, in Nebraska you are considered full time, and as such you must get all the same benefits as someone working 40 hrs/wk. The idea, I think, is to prevent employers from hiring someone, only allowing them to work say 32 hours a week and then not having to give them full time employee benefits.
Ah, okay. NY might be like that. But 32 hours is what sticks in my head.
32 hours is the threshold for benefits and insurance as a full time worker in NY. Which is why a lot of companies, around here, manage hours to prevent people from being able to work more then 30 hours a week.
Yeah, I kind of disagree with the law because it simply makes the poor get fewer hours rather than making them get benefits.
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@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
Every so often I realize I know very little about a country I live so close to.
What in the name of F...
No paid vacation days? Gooooooooooooooooooooood grief.
Even our interns get vacation days! We don't even pay them!
Lol thanks for the laugh. It made me feel worse, but at least I got a good laugh out of it.
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@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
Lol thanks for the laugh. It made me feel worse, but at least I got a good laugh out of it.
You'd be welcome up here in America's hat my friend. 37.5h/week, mediocre healthcare that you don't have to pay for directly....
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@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
Lol thanks for the laugh. It made me feel worse, but at least I got a good laugh out of it.
You'd be welcome up here in America's hat my friend. 37.5h/week, mediocre healthcare that you don't have to pay for directly....
I'm not welcome there, but am coming anyway. See you Canuks this summer!
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@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
Lol thanks for the laugh. It made me feel worse, but at least I got a good laugh out of it.
You'd be welcome up here in America's hat my friend. 37.5h/week, mediocre healthcare that you don't have to pay for directly....
Well I pay about $280/month for mediocre health care already so I'm game. Insurance is pretty important to me...
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
Lol thanks for the laugh. It made me feel worse, but at least I got a good laugh out of it.
You'd be welcome up here in America's hat my friend. 37.5h/week, mediocre healthcare that you don't have to pay for directly....
I'm not welcome there, but am coming anyway. See you Canuks this summer!
Sure you are! Besides Quebec isn't really Canada anyway, they're all strange and speak snail eater.
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@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
Lol thanks for the laugh. It made me feel worse, but at least I got a good laugh out of it.
You'd be welcome up here in America's hat my friend. 37.5h/week, mediocre healthcare that you don't have to pay for directly....
I was disputing a measly $100 to the insurance company. The response "Well I see we've paid for quite a few bills over the last 4 months totally around $800, so you have that to be thankful for right?"
My reponse: "I paid you $840 in the last 3 months so you should be footing the bill when I get horribly sick. I pay a co-pay on top as well!"
Her response: "Oh, actually I do see you have gold coverage..."
The dispute? They only cover you if you get diagnosed. If you have abdominal pain and the doc say "I don't know... I can't diagnose you if I don't know. I can refer you though..." Which means you have to pay full, out of pocket for that visit with this major insurance company if you don't get diagnosed. I said that was BS, the insurance company agreed, but wouldn't help.
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@BBigford That's crazy, I can't relate to that at all.
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@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford That's crazy, I can't relate to that at all.
Haha if people thought that the housing market is what bled the economy with foreclosures, it is nothing compared to pharmaceuticals and expensive health care that has staff stretched too thin with mediocre coverage. I got pneumonia in the winter and my 2 inhalers were $320... with insurance! I went with the company that had the best insurance available to me.
This has been a bad year for getting sick. This entire region has been hit with this weird mix of things. It has started out as influenza, which lowers your bodies ability to fight off other things, then a bacterial infection starting in your sinus' because your body can't fight it off. Then at night a post-nasal drip sends it down into your throat and lungs, which turns into an upper respiratory infection. 3 doctors refused to give me any kind of antibiotic because tests came back negative, until they said they tested for the wrong thing about 2 months into it. TWO MONTHS! Then I got inhalers because "antibiotics would be useless at this point". Afterward I tested positive for all sorts of things as well as dozens of other people that week I guess, once they got the right tests administered. Don't get any medicine? Yeah that crap in your lungs eventually turns into pneumonia. Oh, did I mention the cough is so bad you might end up cracking two ribs? That happened as well. I didn't realize how common it is until after the x-rays.
Yeah... top notch health care even if you are paying a fortune. /sarcasm
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
Is zero PTO legal? even for a part time employee? Damn you're totally getting screwed bro!
I never had PTO until my current job even as full time. No unpaid time off either at the full time ones. part time of course had unpaid time off
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@coliver said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
@coliver said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@BBigford said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Glad I've never worked in a shit whole company like that.
Even the retail companies I've worked for never did crap like that. Every employee received PTO, a minimum of 2 weeks of whatever the average number of hours you work in a week (not sure where that average came from when you've been there less than a year).
Sick time is something that I don't think I've ever had - it's all just PTO, all lumped together, take it how you need it.
My current employer gives three weeks from day one (but it's on an accrual basis, so you don't actually have any PTO on the books until after the first pay period).
...and that is why I'd love to work outside the USA. Common consensus is the average US company is not the greatest to work for in comparison to the average company in the UK or Canada. Never worked outside the US before so I have no opinion on that. I just know I've never been happy with any company I work for.
Sounds like you just need a new employer. But, the flexibility for your classes might not exist, so perhaps you're stuck. It sounds like they are paying you a good wage though, at least you seem to think it's good.
As for your condition where you refuse to allow you to work 40 hours (30 is actually considered full time in many states and assuming they provide benefits like paid vacation time and health insurance, you would be entitled to that - personally I'd visit your city's business affairs office (or whatever it's called) and ask what the city/state requirements for employers is. And if you want to push it... inform the state and watch how things change. though the company sounds so horrible, it's just as likely that they will reduce your hours further to get you under the requirements. But your sacrifice would be good for the other employees.
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Oh, it's not about having a 30 hour work week, it's simply a definition of what qualifies as full time to get full benefits. If you work 30+ hours in a week, in Nebraska you are considered full time, and as such you must get all the same benefits as someone working 40 hrs/wk. The idea, I think, is to prevent employers from hiring someone, only allowing them to work say 32 hours a week and then not having to give them full time employee benefits.
Ah, okay. NY might be like that. But 32 hours is what sticks in my head.
32 hours is the threshold for benefits and insurance as a full time worker in NY. Which is why a lot of companies, around here, manage hours to prevent people from being able to work more then 30 hours a week.
Yeah, I kind of disagree with the law because it simply makes the poor get fewer hours rather than making them get benefits.
I don't understand what you are saying here.
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@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Hours I work/PTO:
Lol thanks for the laugh. It made me feel worse, but at least I got a good laugh out of it.
You'd be welcome up here in America's hat my friend. 37.5h/week, mediocre healthcare that you don't have to pay for directly....
I was disputing a measly $100 to the insurance company. The response "Well I see we've paid for quite a few bills over the last 4 months totally around $800, so you have that to be thankful for right?"
My reponse: "I paid you $840 in the last 3 months so you should be footing the bill when I get horribly sick. I pay a co-pay on top as well!"
Her response: "Oh, actually I do see you have gold coverage..."
The dispute? They only cover you if you get diagnosed. If you have abdominal pain and the doc say "I don't know... I can't diagnose you if I don't know. I can refer you though..." Which means you have to pay full, out of pocket for that visit with this major insurance company if you don't get diagnosed. I said that was BS, the insurance company agreed, but wouldn't help.
What insurance company is that? I want to make sure I don't work for someone who uses them.
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@coliver said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
@coliver said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@BBigford said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
@Dashrender said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Glad I've never worked in a shit whole company like that.
Even the retail companies I've worked for never did crap like that. Every employee received PTO, a minimum of 2 weeks of whatever the average number of hours you work in a week (not sure where that average came from when you've been there less than a year).
Sick time is something that I don't think I've ever had - it's all just PTO, all lumped together, take it how you need it.
My current employer gives three weeks from day one (but it's on an accrual basis, so you don't actually have any PTO on the books until after the first pay period).
...and that is why I'd love to work outside the USA. Common consensus is the average US company is not the greatest to work for in comparison to the average company in the UK or Canada. Never worked outside the US before so I have no opinion on that. I just know I've never been happy with any company I work for.
Sounds like you just need a new employer. But, the flexibility for your classes might not exist, so perhaps you're stuck. It sounds like they are paying you a good wage though, at least you seem to think it's good.
As for your condition where you refuse to allow you to work 40 hours (30 is actually considered full time in many states and assuming they provide benefits like paid vacation time and health insurance, you would be entitled to that - personally I'd visit your city's business affairs office (or whatever it's called) and ask what the city/state requirements for employers is. And if you want to push it... inform the state and watch how things change. though the company sounds so horrible, it's just as likely that they will reduce your hours further to get you under the requirements. But your sacrifice would be good for the other employees.
Out of curiosity what states have a 30 hour work week?
Oh, it's not about having a 30 hour work week, it's simply a definition of what qualifies as full time to get full benefits. If you work 30+ hours in a week, in Nebraska you are considered full time, and as such you must get all the same benefits as someone working 40 hrs/wk. The idea, I think, is to prevent employers from hiring someone, only allowing them to work say 32 hours a week and then not having to give them full time employee benefits.
Ah, okay. NY might be like that. But 32 hours is what sticks in my head.
32 hours is the threshold for benefits and insurance as a full time worker in NY. Which is why a lot of companies, around here, manage hours to prevent people from being able to work more then 30 hours a week.
Yeah, I kind of disagree with the law because it simply makes the poor get fewer hours rather than making them get benefits.
I don't understand what you are saying here.
Ah, sorry. I'm saying that I'm not fully in support of a law that puts a number like 32 hours and makes people above it get benefits and people below it "not matter." All it does is create a handy system for making the poor even poorer.
Oh, you can't pay your bills because you only can get 31 hours a week from a single job because no one wants to call you full time? Ha. Now we will rub salt in the wound by not providing you with all of the benefits that full time people get.
They are getting double punished.
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@Jason said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
Is zero PTO legal? even for a part time employee? Damn you're totally getting screwed bro!
I never had PTO until my current job even as full time. No unpaid time off either at the full time ones. part time of course had unpaid time off
Wow... again, where were these places so we can boycott them?
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@scottalanmiller said
Ah, sorry. I'm saying that I'm not fully in support of a law that puts a number like 32 hours and makes people above it get benefits and people below it "not matter." All it does is create a handy system for making the poor even poorer.
Oh, you can't pay your bills because you only can get 31 hours a week from a single job because no one wants to call you full time? Ha. Now we will rub salt in the wound by not providing you with all of the benefits that full time people get.
They are getting double punished.
When they make laws like that, a lot of people get their hours cut to be below that amount.
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@BRRABill said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said
Ah, sorry. I'm saying that I'm not fully in support of a law that puts a number like 32 hours and makes people above it get benefits and people below it "not matter." All it does is create a handy system for making the poor even poorer.
Oh, you can't pay your bills because you only can get 31 hours a week from a single job because no one wants to call you full time? Ha. Now we will rub salt in the wound by not providing you with all of the benefits that full time people get.
They are getting double punished.
When they make laws like that, a lot of people get their hours cut to be below that amount.
If they weren't paying it to them before, why would they suddenly feel the need to now? That said, many jobs aren't meant to be full time jobs. Do you really consider McDonalds for anything other than the manger to be a full time job? Of course lack of jobs has turned those types of jobs into full time jobs... but that's another story.
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Jason said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
Is zero PTO legal? even for a part time employee? Damn you're totally getting screwed bro!
I never had PTO until my current job even as full time. No unpaid time off either at the full time ones. part time of course had unpaid time off
Wow... again, where were these places so we can boycott them?
You going to boycott local government and the US government?
Luckily I work for a great Fortune 100 now, I can work from home when I want (which I rarely do) we go to any doctors appts, eye exams, etc while being paid etc. (Healthly employees are happy good working employees)
