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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@MattSpeller said in Hours I work/PTO:
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
If you're going to go as far as retirement, then you have to go all the way and start building tons of retirement towers to put those retirees.
What's wrong with that? I don't see the negative there.
That is, in fact, what is happening here in Canada. Boomer generation is getting close and with foresight retirement homes and long term care homes are popping up in droves.
Seems a tab too early for that. First boomers are just seventy this year!
Given the state of our health care system I consider this preparation to be an honest to god miracle
What age do people typically start going into homes? 75? 80?
It's not always age. You also have to figure in dementia if the resident is unlucky enough to have that disease.
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@tonyshowoff said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford said in Boss I want to go to MangoCon....:
Man, I would love to go to this. But I don't get PTO, let alone paid travel to super awesome conventions.
How many (unpaid) vacation days do you get a year? Don't many Americans get something like four?
Unpaid vacation days? Well I worked on Christmas. That probably answers your question about time off. I'm lucky if I get the weekend off without someone bugging me about stuff that can wait till Monday.
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@BBigford we lost gravatar support tonight. Yo ushould upload your avatar locally.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@BBigford we lost gravatar support tonight. Yo ushould upload your avatar locally.
Kept forgetting.
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Now that we have CloudFlare, having the local avatars is no big deal.
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Weird.. I must have uploaded my avatar before I did gravatar...
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
Weird.. I must have uploaded my avatar before I did gravatar...
A lot of people did
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Why is that face so HUGE? It's distracting.. and frankly - I really really don't like it.
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
Why is that face so HUGE? It's distracting.. and frankly - I really really don't like it.
The face from the emoji?
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And now that I have refreshed the browser it's no longer 6 inched in diameter on my screen.
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
And now that I have refreshed the browser it's no longer 6 inched in diameter on my screen.
I was wondering. I was going to take a screen shot and ask if we were seeing the same thing. I do feel that it is slightly too large, but only by a few pixels
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
And now that I have refreshed the browser it's no longer 6 inched in diameter on my screen.
I was wondering. I was going to take a screen shot and ask if we were seeing the same thing. I do feel that it is slightly too large, but only by a few pixels
Now it's normal. We were seeing different things. I'll check and see if I get the gigantic ones at home and take a screenshot.
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This thread dovetails well into the recent discussion about home labs that morphed into a discussion about combining work and home lives together. If home life and work life were merged seamlessly, things like going to conventions would be far easier. As an example.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
This thread dovetails well into the recent discussion about home labs that morphed into a discussion about combining work and home lives together. If home life and work life were merged seamlessly, things like going to conventions would be far easier. As an example.
yes and no. The days leading up to and following the convention I can generally jump on a call at will. The days of the conventions (I typically attend) I am normally completely out of contact. I can't hear my phone (or feel it vibrate), and definitely don't pay enough attention to it respond guaranteed in say, less than an hour.
So for those specific days I'd have to be pretty much off the clock.
That said, I wouldn't be to thrilled to be at an amusement park and have to leave in the middle of the day either to go work on a problem, not unless the company was paying for the following day's ticket to that same park, etc, etc, etc.
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
This thread dovetails well into the recent discussion about home labs that morphed into a discussion about combining work and home lives together. If home life and work life were merged seamlessly, things like going to conventions would be far easier. As an example.
yes and no. The days leading up to and following the convention I can generally jump on a call at will. The days of the conventions (I typically attend) I am normally completely out of contact. I can't hear my phone (or feel it vibrate), and definitely don't pay enough attention to it respond guaranteed in say, less than an hour.
So for those specific days I'd have to be pretty much off the clock.
That said, I wouldn't be to thrilled to be at an amusement park and have to leave in the middle of the day either to go work on a problem, not unless the company was paying for the following day's ticket to that same park, etc, etc, etc.
You are mixing being dedicated on call with other things. No one is implying or has said that.
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I'm not sure I agree that I'm mixing that.
I can see why you would say that, but if you need/want dedicated days where you simply don't have to worry about being on call at all, then you need to be on vacation - which is what I need the convention days specifically listed above to be.
I don't mind spending even 30 mins on the phone helping something in a jam when I'm at an amusement park ( I spend at least that long this weekend while at a party helping a doc figure out why they couldn't get into their favorites - by the way, A+ to ScreenConnect on Android!) But if there is something less than a full catastrophe, I don't except to leave that park if I'm working a schedule like you're talking about.
All that said, I do like the freedom of the schedule you guys are talking about...
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
I'm not sure I agree that I'm mixing that.
I can see why you would say that, but if you need/want dedicated days where you simply don't have to worry about being on call at all, then you need to be on vacation - which is what I need the convention days specifically listed above to be.
I don't mind spending even 30 mins on the phone helping something in a jam when I'm at an amusement park ( I spend at least that long this weekend while at a party helping a doc figure out why they couldn't get into their favorites - by the way, A+ to ScreenConnect on Android!) But if there is something less than a full catastrophe, I don't except to leave that park if I'm working a schedule like you're talking about.
But we didn't say that you'd have to leave the park. Being out of touch is a normal thing. No different than being in a service free zone or being on an airplane.
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@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
I'm not sure I agree that I'm mixing that.
I can see why you would say that, but if you need/want dedicated days where you simply don't have to worry about being on call at all, then you need to be on vacation - which is what I need the convention days specifically listed above to be.
I don't mind spending even 30 mins on the phone helping something in a jam when I'm at an amusement park ( I spend at least that long this weekend while at a party helping a doc figure out why they couldn't get into their favorites - by the way, A+ to ScreenConnect on Android!) But if there is something less than a full catastrophe, I don't except to leave that park if I'm working a schedule like you're talking about.
But we didn't say that you'd have to leave the park. Being out of touch is a normal thing. No different than being in a service free zone or being on an airplane.
I do classify the park differently from the convention, and I do realize you never said I'd have to leave - but come on, there will be times where work has to be done that just can't be done reasonably at a park. So this means you either a) have to be prepared to leave, because you are the end all be all for a problem solution, or b) you're simply off that day and unreachable. I'll grant you that 90% of the time or more a few mins on the phone will probably solve most problems and leave the rest to be fixed when you get home normally, but that other 10% is what bites
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@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
@scottalanmiller said in Hours I work/PTO:
@Dashrender said in Hours I work/PTO:
I'm not sure I agree that I'm mixing that.
I can see why you would say that, but if you need/want dedicated days where you simply don't have to worry about being on call at all, then you need to be on vacation - which is what I need the convention days specifically listed above to be.
I don't mind spending even 30 mins on the phone helping something in a jam when I'm at an amusement park ( I spend at least that long this weekend while at a party helping a doc figure out why they couldn't get into their favorites - by the way, A+ to ScreenConnect on Android!) But if there is something less than a full catastrophe, I don't except to leave that park if I'm working a schedule like you're talking about.
But we didn't say that you'd have to leave the park. Being out of touch is a normal thing. No different than being in a service free zone or being on an airplane.
I do classify the park differently from the convention, and I do realize you never said I'd have to leave - but come on, there will be times where work has to be done that just can't be done reasonably at a park. So this means you either a) have to be prepared to leave, because you are the end all be all for a problem solution, or b) you're simply off that day and unreachable. I'll grant you that 90% of the time or more a few mins on the phone will probably solve most problems and leave the rest to be fixed when you get home normally, but that other 10% is what bites
But you are assuming that it is always you that has to do that work.
