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    • bbigfordB
      bbigford @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      No idea. But have you considered just leaving Communicator instead of updating it? Rocket Chat is nice.

      No joke, I have dreams of dumping Communicator. That is 100% not an option right now, management is the barrier. We're definitely moving to Skype for Business but they were shell shocked by the $24k Lync project, Skype is down to about $11k.

      I skimmed a Rocket Chat thread of yours. You set that up on CentOS right? Any mobile support? Having support on iOS & Android is crucial for some reason. Not sure why it's becoming a requirement, considering we don't use it with OCS. I've got the whole Skype topology setup, they just won't throw in the money for me to license it.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Yup, has mobile support. Rocket is free, so you could implement and bypass their budget issues. Hard to get people to spend money when something better and free is already up and running.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          • coliverC
            coliver
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            https://rocket.chat/ for the software and information.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @coliver
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              @coliver said:

              https://rocket.chat/ for the software and information.

              Rocket.Chat itself works quite nicely. I set it up for my Pops to run a chatroom and it's done fairly well for them... Low number of users though.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by Dashrender

                Are you only using the chat feature of Communicator?

                Do you have another thread talking about your GPO problem?

                *edit

                OK you do
                http://mangolassi.it/topic/8561/folder-redirection-gpo-not-being-applied/10

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                • bbigfordB
                  bbigford @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Are you only using the chat feature of Communicator?

                  Do you have another thread talking about your GPO problem?

                  *edit

                  OK you do
                  http://mangolassi.it/topic/8561/folder-redirection-gpo-not-being-applied/10

                  Nice grab. Yeah I was starting to look at alternatives to Communicator but for reasons I can't discuss on a public forum, I just found out we have to go to Skype (on-premise). Lync was too expensive (~$24k), but Skype for Business is about ~$14k and they're considering that more affordable.

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                  • bbigfordB
                    bbigford
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                    So I'm seeing that Rocket.Chat is web based, but I can't seem to find info for an on-premise installation. Such as how OpenFire/Spark are open source and setup on premise (used it before, not bad considering it was free). Something hosted in the cloud would be impossible to get approved due to client contracts restricting hosted communication.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @bbigford
                      last edited by

                      @BBigford said:

                      So I'm seeing that Rocket.Chat is web based, but I can't seem to find info for an on-premise installation.

                      Rocket.Chat themselves said that this one was great and wanted me to help get their official docs updated:

                      http://mangolassi.it/topic/8086/installing-rocket-chat-on-centos-7

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                        @BBigford said:

                        Such as how OpenFire/Spark are open source and setup on premise (used it before, not bad considering it was free).

                        Like this?

                        http://mangolassi.it/topic/7956/installing-openfire-4-0-1-on-centos-7

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                          @BBigford said:

                          Something hosted in the cloud would be impossible to get approved due to client contracts restricting hosted communication.

                          Fully available on premises, no issues there. Or cloud, you have options. We have it running right now on a Scale HC3 cluster.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @BBigford said:

                            Something hosted in the cloud would be impossible to get approved due to client contracts restricting hosted communication.

                            Fully available on premises, no issues there. Or cloud, you have options. We have it running right now on a Scale HC3 cluster.

                            And by cloud I think he means private cloud.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              And by cloud I think he means private cloud.

                              Public, private, whatever you like.

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                              • bbigfordB
                                bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @BBigford said:

                                So I'm seeing that Rocket.Chat is web based, but I can't seem to find info for an on-premise installation.

                                Rocket.Chat themselves said that this one was great and wanted me to help get their official docs updated:

                                http://mangolassi.it/topic/8086/installing-rocket-chat-on-centos-7

                                Yeah I ran across that one in the past. I was going to circle back around and check it out. Recent information that I can't post about on here is that we have to go with Skype, sucks to say. 😐

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @bbigford
                                  last edited by

                                  @BBigford said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @BBigford said:

                                  So I'm seeing that Rocket.Chat is web based, but I can't seem to find info for an on-premise installation.

                                  Rocket.Chat themselves said that this one was great and wanted me to help get their official docs updated:

                                  http://mangolassi.it/topic/8086/installing-rocket-chat-on-centos-7

                                  Yeah I ran across that one in the past. I was going to circle back around and check it out. Recent information that I can't post about on here is that we have to go with Skype, sucks to say. 😐

                                  That sucks. Are you sure that you "have to go with Skype" even when they won't approve it? they can "say" all that they want that they have to go with it, but if they are not approving the budget, what does that mean? Just install Rocket in the mean time and see what happens. it is just a stop gap until they "get around to releasing the budget".

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @bbigford
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                                    @BBigford said:

                                    we have to go with Skype, sucks to say. 😐

                                    It's not too bad. It has been kind of unreliable lately though which sucks.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @BBigford said:

                                      we have to go with Skype, sucks to say. 😐

                                      It's not too bad. It has been kind of unreliable lately though which sucks.

                                      He means Skype for business which REALLY sucks.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        But currently... they are not going with it? I thought that they were stalling on the decision at this point.

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                                        • bbigfordB
                                          bbigford @Guest
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                                          @scottalanmiller Do you find Rocket Chat any more or less secure (on premise) than Skype for Business?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                                            @BBigford said:

                                            @scottalanmiller Do you find Rocket Chat any more or less secure (on premise) than Skype for Business?

                                            Well it is on premises so up to "me" to secure it. So I lack the security team that MS has to secure things. As a communications channel it is pretty similar. If my goal is to secure the communications from random people, SfB is probably more secure. If it is to keep the communications away from the government, Rocket.Chat would be the more secure.

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