What makes something a management console
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So in a sidebar conversation its a bit of a discussion, clearly XenCenter is a Graphical Management console for XenServer. vSphere is for ESXi.
Both of these hypervisors have CLI that are often more capable than their graphical counter parts. (limitations excluded)
I am of the opinion that anything that allows you to administrate the Hypervisor is a management console, XenCenter, Xen Orchestra, vSphere and their CLI's all fall under this grouping.
Only when you add additional functions such as the Backup capabilities of XO does the Management console become a all encompassing solution.
"Why use XC, when XO can do so much more. "
Now yes the CLI can do everything XO does, but with much more effort I'm sure.
Hyper-V is where the question arises. If you install Hyper-V you get a GUI from which to manage the VM's using a "clickable app", this desktop GUI I would call the Console, and the tools that are installed to it the management tools not the management console.
Am I wrong?
So what makes something a management console that I might be overlooking?SSH is even a management console. Using the physical console (if there is one) counts as well.
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I for one think that when something does only the basics, create a VM, delete a VM, power on/off a VM that's a Management Console.
Anything additional would be a Management Tool.
Including backup functionality, migrate functionality etc.
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To me a console is something that comes out the video port (or possibly the serial port - and the iLo) for what is happening on the hardware of the server. This is in terms of a hypervisor only.
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@Dashrender but you get a console from SSH.
Is this not a management console in your opinion? If I can do everything from an SSH connection how is that not a management console?
XenCenter for example is just a bare-bones management console.
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@Dashrender said:
To me a console is something that comes out the video port (or possibly the serial port - and the iLo) for what is happening on the hardware of the server. This is in terms of a hypervisor only.
That seems like an odd definition in terms to the hypervisor. I know where you are drawing this from, the system console itself. But I'd call that the system console, the TTY.
In older terms (e.g. on an OS) you have "the console" which is the TTY redirect like you are describing. But that's not the management console, it's "the console" itself. A management console is normally a console meant for management.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Dashrender but you get a console from SSH.
I don't agree there. The traditional console is an odds with SSH. When we say you have to drop to the system console, it means "instead of being in SSH." SSH is a remote connection technology, the system console is the "what you see when sitting at the box."
For example...
VNC redirects the console over the network. RDP does not.
