BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer

Danp

But to clarify ... you DON'T need a pool? or do you?

I can answer that for you. Yes, you can migrate between hosts in separate pools (technically, a lone XS is in it's own pool).

olivier

Yes, as @Danp said, there is always a pool: a "single" host is by default in a pool with no name label.

XenCenter choose to hide this, not us.

BRRABill

@Danp @olivier

Thanks @Danp ... I think the thing that was throwing us here (who thought it was not possible outside a pool) was that a standalone is actually a pool

BRRABill

Converted my first physical server to a production XS this morning.

So far, so good.

BRRABill

Question:

On the new production server, it is not reporting the space taken by my new VM.

This is what is says:

Total: 871.8 GiB
Currently used: 5.2 GiB
Available: 866.5 GiB

But for example the new VM I migrated over has at least 100GB.

Why would it not be reporting this?

BRRABill

Danp

Thin provisioning?

BRRABill

@Danp said:

Thin provisioning?

But there is 100GB of data actually on the drive.

Dashrender

you have to refresh. Refresh doesn't happen automatically.

BRRABill

@Dashrender said:

you have to refresh. Refresh doesn't happen automatically.

Ah.

What is this? 1973?

Dashrender

@BRRABill said:

@Dashrender said:

you have to refresh. Refresh doesn't happen automatically.

Ah.

What is this? 1973?

I kinda asked/thought the same thing. Having to manually fresh, or relaunch the application just seems odd.

BRRABill

@Dashrender said:

I kinda asked/thought the same thing. Having to manually fresh, or relaunch the application just seems ~~odd~~ OLD.

FTFY

Dashrender

Did refreshing it solve the problem?

BRRABill

Yep.

Rescan is actually the word they use.

What does that do exactly, I wonder?

BRRABill

@Dashrender said:

Did refreshing it solve the problem?

Did you ever do this through XC?

I could not find the option there.

scottalanmiller

Am I clear... the issue is that XO only refreshes the data as to drive sizes on a page refresh?

BRRABill

@scottalanmiller said:

Am I clear... the issue is that XO only refreshes the data as to drive sizes on a page refresh?

No you have to click the "rescan" button or it never does it. At least that is what I am seeing.

BRRABill

scottalanmiller

@BRRABill said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Am I clear... the issue is that XO only refreshes the data as to drive sizes on a page refresh?

No you have to click the "rescan" button or it never does it. At least that is what I am seeing.

Ah okay, my guess is because they don't want to incur a storage penalty without everyone being clear that they are about to query the storage. In a small lab with local storage this seems silly, but if this was a massive environment with tons of heavily used remote storage, might be something that you want to carefully control. What if you had a hundred admins with XO open all of the time and a thousand nodes on it with gobs of shared storage all updating automatically... suddenly what seems like a trivial hit becomes crippling.

BRRABill

@scottalanmiller said:

@BRRABill said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Am I clear... the issue is that XO only refreshes the data as to drive sizes on a page refresh?

No you have to click the "rescan" button or it never does it. At least that is what I am seeing.

Ah okay, my guess is because they don't want to incur a storage penalty without everyone being clear that they are about to query the storage. In a small lab with local storage this seems silly, but if this was a massive environment with tons of heavily used remote storage, might be something that you want to carefully control. What if you had a hundred admins with XO open all of the time and a thousand nodes on it with gobs of shared storage all updating automatically... suddenly what seems like a trivial hit becomes crippling.

And, again, in a larger environment, seeing storage space in the GUI here is not really the proper way to manage it, correct?