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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
      last edited by wirestyle22

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @wirestyle22 said:

      My strength is not immediately apparent unfortunately. On paper my experience looks strong but my education is lacking. Unfortunately, before SAM gets in here saying certs are stupid, every employer here is looking for certs and very, very specific experience.

      What kinds of employers are these? What certs are they looking for?

      It depends on the job but most recently it's been an associates degree in computer science, which doesn't make sense to me. I'm not a programmer and you aren't hiring a programmer.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

        Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said:

          It depends on the job but most recently it's been an associates degree in computer science, which doesn't make sense to me. I'm not a programmer and you aren't hiring a programmer.

          CS isn't for programmers. It is for algorithmic researchers. Programmers get IT degrees.

          It makes no sense and tells you instantly that you talking to a company without the slightest idea or concern about IT. It's a garbage job requirement, often fake, and a great way to improve your job searches by eliminating those places from consideration. You aren't desperate or starving, focus on real and/or good jobs instead.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Think of it like this...

            Programming is to engineering as CS is to a physicist.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

              Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

              LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

              Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @wirestyle22 said:

                It depends on the job but most recently it's been an associates degree in computer science, which doesn't make sense to me. I'm not a programmer and you aren't hiring a programmer.

                CS isn't for programmers. It is for algorithmic researchers. Programmers get IT degrees.

                It makes no sense and tells you instantly that you talking to a company without the slightest idea or concern about IT. It's a garbage job requirement, often fake, and a great way to improve your job searches by eliminating those places from consideration. You aren't desperate or starving, focus on real and/or good jobs instead.

                I intend to take advantage of all of the good advice I've been given here. Hopefully I will learn quickly. On a side note my fiance just got a job with the state paying...a lot so that's great. Motivated me to get out there even more.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                  Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                  LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                  Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                  Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                    Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                    LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                    Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                    Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

                    Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.

                    Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                      last edited by wirestyle22

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                      Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                      LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                      Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                      Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

                      Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.

                      Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.

                      I would never use Microsoft specifically because of the licensing cost

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                        last edited by

                        @wirestyle22 said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                        Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                        LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                        Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                        Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

                        Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.

                        Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.

                        I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing

                        You were thinking Linux terminal server?

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by wirestyle22

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @wirestyle22 said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                          Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                          LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                          Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                          Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

                          Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.

                          Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.

                          I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing

                          You were thinking Linux terminal server?

                          Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @wirestyle22
                            last edited by

                            @wirestyle22 said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @wirestyle22 said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                            Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                            LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                            Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                            Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

                            Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.

                            Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.

                            I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing

                            You were thinking Linux terminal server?

                            Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well

                            Why? What's the point in making a TS out of it? Why not install cheap Linux boxes instead?

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                              last edited by wirestyle22

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @wirestyle22 said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @wirestyle22 said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                              Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                              LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                              Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                              Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

                              Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.

                              Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.

                              I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing

                              You were thinking Linux terminal server?

                              Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well

                              Why? What's the point in making a TS out of it? Why not install cheap Linux boxes instead?

                              You're kind of arguing with my previous impression which is now moot. I was just clarifying for Scott that I meant Linux. Still going to installed cheap linux boxes.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                                Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                                LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                                Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                                Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

                                Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.

                                Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.

                                I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing

                                You were thinking Linux terminal server?

                                Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well

                                I missed that. That's better, still crazy, but better 🙂

                                Can't do Zero Clients with that generally.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                                  Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                                  LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                                  Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                                  Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

                                  Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.

                                  Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.

                                  I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing

                                  You were thinking Linux terminal server?

                                  Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well

                                  I missed that. That's better, still crazy, but better 🙂

                                  Can't do Zero Clients with that generally.

                                  😄

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    yeah, but $500 is 40% less than that. I could give up 2 years worth of warranty and move to a ProDesk 400MT for $599 for an i5, with 4 GB RAM

                                    Sure, but you aren't comparing against thin clients.

                                    LOL - now mind you it's been years since I looked at thin clients, they were $299/ea on average from HP and other big name thin client providers, and that was without a monitor.

                                    Thin clients definitely aren't cheap.

                                    Yes... but what about the RDS Server cost, the RDS CALs, the management overhead....

                                    Like I said, ain't cheap $299 isn't cheap - especially when you compare all the other stuff needed to make Thin Clients work compared to a desktop PC.

                                    Even if you take my listed HP at $599, you'll be hard pressed to get a Thin Client solution in place for less than $599 per station when you consider the MS licensing, the server hardware, etc.

                                    I would never use Microsoft specifically because the licensing

                                    You were thinking Linux terminal server?

                                    Yes if possible. I have no experience with it. NOTE: I did put this in my original post as well

                                    I missed that. That's better, still crazy, but better 🙂

                                    Can't do Zero Clients with that generally.

                                    Better to be less crazy than all crazy I say

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