Ubiquiti Switches
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That's a shame. So to buy into the single pane of glass management, they make you spend a lot more.
If they supplied a non POE version it would almost be worth it.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
That's a shame. So to buy into the single pane of glass management, they make you spend a lot more.
It requires more. The devices are slower, too. If you look, there are better specs on the non-Unifi gear. There is a reason we don't use the Unifi ourselves, only makes sense at a certain scale and for a certain kind of company. Don't believe that the Unifi do 10GigE, either.
The Unifi line is also newer.
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Edgeswitch. 48 port lite
Non-Blocking Throughput: 70 Gbps
Switching Capacity: 140 Gbps
Forwarding Rate: 104.16 MppsUnifi Switch 48 port 500W
Total Non-Blocking Throughput - 70 Gbps
Switching capacity: 140 Gbps
Forwarding rate: 104.16 MppsBoth have identical speed specs, Am I missing something?
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They are the exact same box minus the POE part of the hardware... the difference will be in the software running on them and features they have for the software.
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Our Edgeswitch has 10GigE
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@scottalanmiller The unifi switch does too. I just went through this debating between the two and went with the edgeswitch just because I would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller The unifi switch does too. I just went through this debating between the two and went with the edgeswitch just because I would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.
If your network was that complex as to need that type of feature, that you don't even know you need now, then why are you even looking at devices like these and not high end enterprise devices?
I can totally understand not going with the Unifi stuff because it's more money and includes a feature you don't need (POE), but lack of a feature statement seems weird.
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@Dashrender said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller The unifi switch does too. I just went through this debating between the two and went with the edgeswitch just because I would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.
If your network was that complex as to need that type of feature, that you don't even know you need now, then why are you even looking at devices like these and not high end enterprise devices?
I can totally understand not going with the Unifi stuff because it's more money and includes a feature you don't need (POE), but lack of a feature statement seems weird.
What would a high end switch over in value there?
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@Dashrender The Unifi Switch probably did everything I needed, I just like to have flexibility in case I decide to change things on the network in the future and if I can do it for a cheaper cost, my as well.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller The unifi switch does too. I just went through this debating between the two and went with the edgeswitch just because I would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.
If your network was that complex as to need that type of feature, that you don't even know you need now, then why are you even looking at devices like these and not high end enterprise devices?
I can totally understand not going with the Unifi stuff because it's more money and includes a feature you don't need (POE), but lack of a feature statement seems weird.
What would a high end switch over in value there?
That was my point. I've definitely been caught in the "hey there's some cool new feature that looks neat - I gotta have it" only once I get it it's useless for me, and it was money wasted.
@brianlittlejohn saidI would rather have features I didn't use then find something I needed that they haven't put in the unifi switch yet.
I didn't think that made sense as the reason for sticking with Edgeswitches. You (Scott) have said for years, buy for today, not for tomorrow unless you know with full certainty that you will do X tomorrow, otherwise it's more often a waste than just having to buy again when that time really comes that you need X.
Getting back to my mentioning Enterprise stuff, I was going a bit over the top - If you don't want the Unifi because it could be missing something down the road, then why not just buy the best, because it's likely that the EdgeSwitch will be missing something the Enterprise stuff will have
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@Dashrender The Unifi Switch probably did everything I needed, I just like to have flexibility in case I decide to change things on the network in the future and if I can do it for a cheaper cost, my as well.
I agree with cheaper cost - though, having the prebuilt graphs that come in the controller software that Unifi has is pretty nice.
I'm assuming if you enable logging/SNTP that you could get another solution to provide similar graphs, but that's just one more thing to setup and manage. Of course if you have that logging/SNTP for other things, adding the switches it it, probably isn't that big of a deal.
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So who has used the EdgeSwitches in anger in production, any quirks/oddities?
Do they insist on using Java on the client machines like HP switches to manage them?
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@Breffni-Potter said:
So who has used the EdgeSwitches in anger in production, any quirks/oddities?
Do they insist on using Java on the client machines like HP switches to manage them?
In anger?
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And the Lord sayeth to the lowly shephard upon the field, thou shalt not take the switch in anger upon thine network.
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No one's heard that phrase?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Anger&defid=597320
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@Breffni-Potter said:
No one's heard that phrase?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Anger&defid=597320
Nope, never heard it.
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Must be just on this side of the pond. It's used all the time.
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I'm interested in knowing who uses these in production, likes them and views them as "Enterprise" class. As I've seen lots of people comment they good for AP's and SMB but wouldn't consider them enterprise class like HP/Cisco
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@hobbit666 said:
I'm interested in knowing who uses these in production, likes them and views them as "Enterprise" class. As I've seen lots of people comment they good for AP's and SMB but wouldn't consider them enterprise class like HP/Cisco
Well, I don't consider them like Cisco. Definitely better than that.
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Our EdgeSwitch is very new, so we don't have a lot of time on it. Our EdgeRouters we've been on for years and certainly outclass Cisco. I hate Cisco as a comparison because I consider them to be too broad. Cisco ranges from hobby gear to enterprise and everything in between. The Cisco gear normally used by SMBs I classify as hobby or the most entry level SMB (ASAs, for example.) EdgeRouters are not Cisco competitors, Cisco isn't even thinking of getting into that level of game and at this point knows to stay out of it.
