Analysis of Locky ransomware
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@dafyre said:
This is why you would want a 3rd party service to do the backups.
If there is such a thing.
Google brought up a few places, but none of them look particularly legit.
I can't do it right now but I'll look into it some more. Or maybe someone knows and will chime in.
Third party service to do backups of what?
To back up your DropBox / Google Drive / OneDrive accounts in the case that they can't / won't restore from backups or their services shuts down unexpectedly.
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@wirestyle22 said:
I actually just send out a notice about this company-wide right before you posted. Ransomware is annoying.
What was said in your notice?
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@dafyre said:
To back up your DropBox / Google Drive / OneDrive accounts in the case that they can't / won't restore from backups or their services shuts down unexpectedly.
Exactly.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@wirestyle22 said:
I actually just send out a notice about this company-wide right before you posted. Ransomware is annoying.
What was said in your notice?
I just made people aware of it and explained what ransomeware is. I also told them to be careful when they type URL's into their browser etc because those very similar URL's are purchased specifically for that purpose etc. Typical stuff
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
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@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
Rare yes. But paying something like $5 a month to Crashplan to be able to back up my Amazon files seems like a no brainer to me.
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@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
Rare yes. But paying something like $5 a month to Crashplan to be able to back up my Amazon files seems like a no brainer to me.
But if you are paying $10 to DropBox pro, now you're making it 50% more expensive..
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@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
Rare yes. But paying something like $5 a month to Crashplan to be able to back up my Amazon files seems like a no brainer to me.
But if you are paying $10 to DropBox pro, now you're making it 50% more expensive..
It depends on how much your data is worth to you. In my case, it's wedding pictures and video, and movies that I'd rather not have to rip again, family pictures and video going back years and years... It's worth $15 a month to me to keep it.
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@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
Rare yes. But paying something like $5 a month to Crashplan to be able to back up my Amazon files seems like a no brainer to me.
But if you are paying $10 to DropBox pro, now you're making it 50% more expensive..
It depends on how much your data is worth to you. In my case, it's wedding pictures and video, and movies that I'd rather not have to rip again, family pictures and video going back years and years... It's worth $15 a month to me to keep it.
You are also an IT person - you understand that value - the average consumer does not.
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@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
Rare yes. But paying something like $5 a month to Crashplan to be able to back up my Amazon files seems like a no brainer to me.
But if you are paying $10 to DropBox pro, now you're making it 50% more expensive..
In a business setting, I'd argue that you are probably right, but that may still be cheaper than having someone have to go back and recreate a lost word document... let a lone a whole office of people.
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The question is - Does DropBox Pro provide backup like Microsoft provides backup for hosted Exchange and SharePoint in O365.
You never hear Scott telling people they need to backup their O365 accounts - why? Because backups are part of the service.
Now if you want to backup your free DropBox account with a $5/crashplan account - go for it.
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@Dashrender said:
You never hear Scott telling people they need to backup their O365 accounts - why? Because backups are part of the service.
Are they? In what fashion?
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
You never hear Scott telling people they need to backup their O365 accounts - why? Because backups are part of the service.
Are they? In what fashion?
Not sure what you mean? But that asked - I have no idea - If I was to guess, I'd say tape.
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@Dashrender said:
Not sure what you mean? But that asked - I have no idea - If I was to guess, I'd say tape.
No i mean, say I store all kinds of files there. Not just Microsoft stuff.
And get hit with Crypto-something. I can retrieve all that stuff?
I thought the Microsoft stuff (OneDrive and ODfB) only did backups in the form of versioning.
But I do not 100% know, which is why I will sit back and await ML to inform me.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Not sure what you mean? But that asked - I have no idea - If I was to guess, I'd say tape.
No i mean, say I store all kinds of files there. Not just Microsoft stuff.
And get hit with Crypto-something. I can retrieve all that stuff?
I thought the Microsoft stuff (OneDrive and ODfB) only did backups in the form of versioning.
But I do not 100% know, which is why I will sit back and await ML to inform me.
Well OneDrive isn't part of this conversation - only ODfB. I would guess you could reach out and have your whole ODfB box restored if it was broken by something like a sync'ed cryptolocker.
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If you run your own ODfB server, you would be taking full backups of it like anything else, one would expect. And backups of the SQL Server that is powering it.
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As usual, I asking for the smaller case.
The Uncle using a single PC.
How does that poor fellow protect himself from Crypto-viruses?
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@BRRABill said:
As usual, I asking for the smaller case.
The Uncle using a single PC.
How does that poor fellow protect himself from Crypto-viruses?
Get them a chromebook.
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@BRRABill said:
As usual, I asking for the smaller case.
The Uncle using a single PC.
How does that poor fellow protect himself from Crypto-viruses?
Chromebooks are best. 80% of the time at least, I think.
For everyone else... there are backups. Real backups, not images, no short cuts. BackBlaze is good. Lots of options.
