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    Are There Reasonable Multi-Master Over the WAN Storage Options?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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      @Breffni-Potter said:

      Hmm, I can't remember exactly but I think the BBC actually pulled this off with a particular product.

      I can't remember what it's called.

      You can do it, like I can build it with GFS2 and DRBD, the problem is once a WAN link fails you have a disaster. Do you simply cut everyone off? Or do you allow local edits?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        If you have the budget to go for "never fail" WAN links, you can do a lot to make this kind of thing feasible. But when they do fail, you have to come up with a failure mitigation strategy.

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          Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Breffni-Potter said:

          Hmm, I can't remember exactly but I think the BBC actually pulled this off with a particular product.

          I can't remember what it's called.

          You can do it, like I can build it with GFS2 and DRBD, the problem is once a WAN link fails you have a disaster. Do you simply cut everyone off? Or do you allow local edits?

          No I mean actually sorting it despite that.

          Done some googling to see if I can find the product but can't but effectively, the storage at each location is irrelevant, what you do is use a digital asset management system.

          This does your versioning of media files, checking, quality control. It's a very different way of working to "everyone throw your data into a file browser"

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @Deleted74295
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            @Breffni-Potter said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Breffni-Potter said:

            Hmm, I can't remember exactly but I think the BBC actually pulled this off with a particular product.

            I can't remember what it's called.

            You can do it, like I can build it with GFS2 and DRBD, the problem is once a WAN link fails you have a disaster. Do you simply cut everyone off? Or do you allow local edits?

            No I mean actually sorting it despite that.

            Done some googling to see if I can find the product but can't but effectively, the storage at each location is ireelevant, what you do is use a digital assest management system.

            This does your versioning of media files, checking, quality control. It's a very different way of working to "everyone throw your data into a file browser"

            I would think it depends on the system and how it actually checks if a file is being accessed. If the WAN link is down it would most likely assume that no one else has it opened or just error out if its configured to do that if unable to connect. I haven't had to do this though.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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              @Breffni-Potter said:

              This does your versioning of media files, checking, quality control. It's a very different way of working to "everyone throw your data into a file browser"

              We do that with Sharepoint, but it doesn't support multi-master and it doesn't sort out conflicts.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                @wirestyle22 said:

                I would think it depends on the system and how it actually checks if a file is being accessed. If the WAN link is down it would most likely assume that no one else has it opened or just error out if its configured to do that if unable to connect. I haven't had to do this though.

                That's the problem it either has to lock everyone out or allow conflicts.

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                  Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Breffni-Potter said:

                  This does your versioning of media files, checking, quality control. It's a very different way of working to "everyone throw your data into a file browser"

                  We do that with Sharepoint, but it doesn't support multi-master and it doesn't sort out conflicts.

                  But certain DAM packages do that. it's built specifically for digital assets which are constantly being edited/changed.

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                  • Deleted74295D
                    Deleted74295 Banned
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                    They are stored as the same file but can see the different versions, which user worked on which version, ect.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                      @Breffni-Potter said:

                      They are stored as the same file but can see the different versions, which user worked on which version, ect.

                      My multi-master system does that naturally. In both cases, humans have to sort it out later.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Deleted74295
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                        @Breffni-Potter said:

                        They are stored as the same file but can see the different versions, which user worked on which version, ect.

                        Man, I can see all kinds of problems with that system. and as Scott said, it has to be sorted by a person.

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @Breffni-Potter said:

                          They are stored as the same file but can see the different versions, which user worked on which version, ect.

                          Man, I can see all kinds of problems with that system. and as Scott said, it has to be sorted by a person.

                          Yeah. All the workable solutions I've seen involve change tracking of some sort.

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                          • StrongBadS
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                            There are systems that do this with version control. You could do this with GIT or Mercurial, in theory. But eventually a human always has to sort things out.

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