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    West Virginia Looks to Potentially Add State Run ISP

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    • coliver
      coliver last edited by

      I've yet to hear an instance where municipal fiber has failed. This just seems like a good win for the state and the consumers.

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      • JaredBusch
        JaredBusch @coliver last edited by

        @coliver said:

        I've yet to hear an instance where municipal fiber has failed. This just seems like a good win for the state and the consumers.

        Probably because it is generally only being put in by municipalities that the existing companies do not truly want to be in.

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        • coliver
          coliver @JaredBusch last edited by

          @JaredBusch said:

          @coliver said:

          I've yet to hear an instance where municipal fiber has failed. This just seems like a good win for the state and the consumers.

          Probably because it is generally only being put in by municipalities that the existing companies do not truly want to be in.

          Really? I know of one place that had two incumbent companies and they still installed municipal fiber. It worked great and forced the other two to lower their prices to compete. Anecdotal for sure but it is one example.

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          • scottalanmiller
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch last edited by

            @JaredBusch said:

            @coliver said:

            I've yet to hear an instance where municipal fiber has failed. This just seems like a good win for the state and the consumers.

            Probably because it is generally only being put in by municipalities that the existing companies do not truly want to be in.

            That's a good point. Hard to fail when you only test it where there isn't competition.

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            • Dashrender
              Dashrender last edited by

              The part that I find difficult to understand is - if the state is going to do this, how do they not kick the shit out of every other incumbent because the state should only need to charge enough to keep the network going and moving forward, not make a profit.

              Of course so many will look for a way to make it into a profit center and then they are doomed.

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              • scottalanmiller
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                The part that I find difficult to understand is - if the state is going to do this, how do they not kick the shit out of every other incumbent because the state should only need to charge enough to keep the network going and moving forward, not make a profit.

                Of course so many will look for a way to make it into a profit center and then they are doomed.

                Keep in mind that they need to charge enough to cover the cost over time of the roll out. And they don't want to just roll out where it is profitable but also where it is not. They have a LOT of rural areas to cover. Every driven through? This is going to be rough for them.

                So while they can beat the prices of the incumbents, in theory, they do have some extreme costs ahead of them that they need to cover over time AND they need to earn enough so that they can keep upgrading and keep rolling out to more and more rural areas.

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                • Dashrender
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  The part that I find difficult to understand is - if the state is going to do this, how do they not kick the shit out of every other incumbent because the state should only need to charge enough to keep the network going and moving forward, not make a profit.

                  Of course so many will look for a way to make it into a profit center and then they are doomed.

                  Keep in mind that they need to charge enough to cover the cost over time of the roll out. And they don't want to just roll out where it is profitable but also where it is not. They have a LOT of rural areas to cover. Every driven through? This is going to be rough for them.

                  So while they can beat the prices of the incumbents, in theory, they do have some extreme costs ahead of them that they need to cover over time AND they need to earn enough so that they can keep upgrading and keep rolling out to more and more rural areas.

                  Yeah, I keep forgetting about those rual folks.

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                  • scottalanmiller
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Yeah, I keep forgetting about those rual folks.

                    Please... they like to be called "West Virginianers"

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                    • MattSpeller
                      MattSpeller @Dashrender last edited by MattSpeller

                      @Dashrender said:

                      The part that I find difficult to understand is - if the state is going to do this, how do they not kick the shit out of every other incumbent because the state should only need to charge enough to keep the network going and moving forward, not make a profit.

                      Of course so many will look for a way to make it into a profit center and then they are doomed.

                      Here it was an incumbent company instead of a province but they worked it out.

                      TL;DR (I can't find the cursed article now damn it) - last mile service shares the poles / conduit. One company can't hog the pole / conduit. Some agreement was made on maintenance etc too.

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                      • RamblingBiped
                        RamblingBiped @scottalanmiller last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller It's okay to call them "West Vur-jeye-ners" if we use an Appalachian accent right???

                        😮

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