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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      So just to confirm

      • if you aren't in Antarctica and
      • you are assumed to be using a Raid card with cache, and
      • you don't need manufacturer integrated support

      ...consumer is the way to go.

      Regular consumer (like the Samsung EVO 850) or the Pro consumer (Evo 850 PRO)?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by Dashrender

        The problem that this boils down to is... you want to use Dell hardware, but non dell HDs. This is a mismatch.

        @scottalanmiller , would you say that it's probably a good time for SMBs to consider moving away from Dell/HP and more toward SuperMicro because you can use your own drives more freely with the RAID controller you install there?

        of course, you probably don't get things like front panel lights on failing/failed drives?

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          I'm not talking about my situation, just in general.

          Concept and theory.

          Just to learn.

          I fully understand what I have done with the DELL drives. 😉

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            I really originally never thought about why you;d have to worry about power loss if you have a UPS, which is what started this thread.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said:

              I really originally never thought about why you;d have to worry about power loss if you have a UPS, which is what started this thread.

              Because, if you're like me, it's definitely worth having the UPSs, but it's not worth it to install generators. Of course if you have short term battery power, say 15 mins, I suppose you should probably have scripts etc in place to start shutting down your servers when you loose power for more than say 5 mins.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said:

                So just to confirm

                • if you aren't in Antarctica and
                • you are assumed to be using a Raid card with cache, and
                • you don't need manufacturer integrated support

                ...consumer is the way to go.

                Regular consumer (like the Samsung EVO 850) or the Pro consumer (Evo 850 PRO)?

                Unless you want support. Support has always been the driver to enterprise gear. Whether servers, SAN, desktops, laptops, NAS, your name it... big business pays for vendor support. What types of gear they get are not things that they look at. It is only when you leave the enterprise world of "nothing but integrated support" do these questions even arise. Big businesses never part out their servers because integrated support is worth more than the gear itself.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  I really originally never thought about why you;d have to worry about power loss if you have a UPS, which is what started this thread.

                  If you use a UPS correctly, you really don't. That's why mainframes and mini computers (the $50K+ gear) don't have these kinds of protections at all. They expect you to be fully responsible for making sure that the power never fails and that if it is going to fail that you power the systems down properly first. The idea of baking the protection into the individual servers or controllers is an SMB approach where IT is trying to cover for facilities departments that are not being held accountable or can't be.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @BRRABill said:

                    I really originally never thought about why you;d have to worry about power loss if you have a UPS, which is what started this thread.

                    Because, if you're like me, it's definitely worth having the UPSs, but it's not worth it to install generators. Of course if you have short term battery power, say 15 mins, I suppose you should probably have scripts etc in place to start shutting down your servers when you loose power for more than say 5 mins.

                    Yes, shutting down is always a viable option. You just need to make sure you have failover UPS that are properly monitored and maintained.

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