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    Real Time Replication and Failover for VMware

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      Carnival Boy @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      And since Starwind is free for two hosts.... Why not use the best product?

      It's not free though is it? It's free as in no licencing costs, but the costs to set it up, learn how it works, configure it, and maintain it...what are they? How long would it take the OP to get this up and running in their existing environment? A couple of days maybe? At $1500 a day. Even then, I'd be a reluctant to trust my entire infrastructure to a product I'd only been using for a couple of days. I expect I'd use Veeam because I'm very familiar with it, I get good on-site support from my vendor, and I reckon it would be simpler and quicker to set up.

      I'm not going to write a white paper on why though. That's just my initial feeling. I may well be wrong!

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        Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        Just to be stubborn? Would you be okay telling the owner of the company that you intentionally avoided protecting the data from loss, downtime and forcing crash consistency instead of full consistency?

        I'm just stating what I reckon I would do on a forum. People can ignore me or disagree. But I get this? I'm done.

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          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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          @Carnival-Boy said:

          It's not free though is it? It's free as in no licencing costs, but the costs to set it up, learn how it works, configure it, and maintain it...what are they?

          Veaam isn't free either in that vein. Their replication is a different function than the backups, to some degree.

          The bigger issue, though, is that it doesn't even meet the stated needs plus it introduces risk. It doesn't do real time replication at all. It does async which requires quiescence so needs things like databases to flush to disk and can fail. It is only crash consistent. You lose data.

          I get the idea that learning things has cost, but losing data does too.

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            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
            last edited by scottalanmiller

            @Carnival-Boy said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Just to be stubborn? Would you be okay telling the owner of the company that you intentionally avoided protecting the data from loss, downtime and forcing crash consistency instead of full consistency?

            I'm just stating what I reckon I would do on a forum. People can ignore me or disagree. But I get this? I'm done.

            You didn't state any reasons why you were eschewing the stated needs and why you would introduce risk, just that you'd not consider the only free option that met the requirements. You said you'd not meet the requirements that your business gives you and gave no reason for doing so. How do you expect that to sound? It actually sounded like you stated that you would outright put the business at risk and not do the job you were told to do and gave reason, just that you would refuse to do your job.

            What do you expect?

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            • KOOLERK
              KOOLER Vendor @Alex Sage
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              @anonymous said:

              What options do I have? Just a simply 2 host setup. No SAN.

              Like @SAM mentioned StarWind two-node setup is free. You can use Hyper-V as a basic OS inside VM to make it 200% free.

              https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san-free

              For hyper converged offering please kick me PM as we're working on a special offering for MangoLassi people.

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