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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @MattSpeller
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      @MattSpeller said:

      Synology DS412+ (cloudsync user's folders is niiiiiice)

      Is there a particular reason you recommend that model? (Which has apparently been replaced by the DS415+.)

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @johnhooks said:

        It will do Samba with users and permissions through its web gui.

        Meaning SMB. Samba is the name of the underlying code but not relevant to the users of a NAS - that's just under the hood. It is an SMB server like Windows. It does the same SMB features that Windows would do.

        The NAS user still has to be added to Samba to allow them access to the share.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          It's likely the model he could buy at the time.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill nope, I think we actually have 2x 415+ and 2x monster size one. Been a while since I shopped for them but I think they have a couple tiers. The ones we have are the fancy pants models.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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              @johnhooks said:

              The NAS user still has to be added to Samba to allow them access to the share.

              Same as you have to add them to the SMB Server on Windows. Given that the point of a NAS is to abstract to a higher level, thinking of it in terms of being Samba (which it does not necessarily have to be, it's just any SMB server, sometimes it is others) is confusing.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @MattSpeller
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                @MattSpeller said:

                @BRRABill nope, I think we actually have 2x 415+ and 2x monster size one. Been a while since I shopped for them but I think they have a couple tiers. The ones we have are the fancy pants models.

                I guess my real question is ... how do you pick from all the models? LOL.

                I think @scottalanmiller said based on storage capacity performance.

                I'm not even going to look at them. I'll talk to @Brett-at-ioSafe when he chmies in.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  For this size environment I'd be really surprised if anything bigger than a DS215+ was needed. WD Red drives are probably enough. Red Pro if you need a speed boost. That's likely it.

                  https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS215+

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said:

                    I think @scottalanmiller said based on storage capacity performance.

                    Yup, it's all down to capacity and IOPS. Nothing more. Not until you need to rack mount them.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill we started with 1 DS415+ with 4x 1TB to backup video and we liked it enough to buy another identical one and two RS3614+ and scrapped storing user data on servers at all. Company size is 120-150, tech level is moderate to high.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @johnhooks said:

                        The NAS user still has to be added to Samba to allow them access to the share.

                        Same as you have to add them to the SMB Server on Windows. Given that the point of a NAS is to abstract to a higher level, thinking of it in terms of being Samba (which it does not necessarily have to be, it's just any SMB server, sometimes it is others) is confusing.

                        But you can have users on it that don't have access to any SMB shares, so those wouldn't be Samba users. Some can have access to only NFS shares or WebDAV.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          For this size environment I'd be really surprised if anything bigger than a DS215+ was needed. WD Red drives are probably enough. Red Pro if you need a speed boost. That's likely it.

                          https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS215+

                          We set up a DS414J and it worked fine for about 15 users, and with regular reds 🙂

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @gjacobse
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                            @gjacobse said:

                            however you will be better suited to use a full server running AD...

                            This is just crazy. There is no AD in a business of this size. Why would you even think to introduce such complexity just for a simple share that a NAS can handle.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
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                              What makes a drive a "NAS drive"?

                              I was looking at the WD Reds that were mentioned.

                              Strangely enough after my OTHER issue with the drives, I was expecting to 2TB drives to be like $1,000 each. When I saw what the price was, I LOLed in my office.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @BRRABill
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                                @BRRABill said:

                                What makes a drive a "NAS drive"?

                                I was looking at the WD Reds that were mentioned.

                                Strangely enough after my OTHER issue with the drives, I was expecting to 2TB drives to be like $1,000 each. When I saw what the price was, I LOLed in my office.

                                http://www.smbitjournal.com/2014/05/understanding-the-western-digital-sata-drive-lineup-2014/

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  What makes a drive a "NAS drive"?

                                  it is network attached storage. that is all nothing else.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    What makes a drive a "NAS drive"?

                                    Note, the physical drives them selves have nothing to do with it.

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                                    • RomoR
                                      Romo @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      What makes a drive a "NAS drive"?

                                      it is network attached storage. that is all nothing else.

                                      I believe he was asking about the drive itself, regular drive for any computer vs a drive you would put on a nas

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        What makes a drive a "NAS drive"?

                                        I was looking at the WD Reds that were mentioned.

                                        Strangely enough after my OTHER issue with the drives, I was expecting to 2TB drives to be like $1,000 each. When I saw what the price was, I LOLed in my office.

                                        ^^^^^ exactly

                                        I don't know how much data you have, but I can't recommend "over buying" enough. It's cheap & when you need it, you really need it. We're now rocking 4x 6TB in each DS415+ and so far all the drives we've upgraded from go into the 3614+'s until we can afford a nice matched set for those too.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Romo
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                                          @Romo said:

                                          I believe he was asking about the drive itself, regular drive for any computer vs a drive you would put on a nas

                                          There is no difference in them. You simply pick the drive that meets the specs you need. there is no such thing as a drive for NAS. no matter what certian companies try to market to you.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch said:

                                            @gjacobse said:

                                            however you will be better suited to use a full server running AD...

                                            This is just crazy. There is no AD in a business of this size. Why would you even think to introduce such complexity just for a simple share that a NAS can handle.

                                            I agree. Even Microsoft puts the crossover point at roughly 12 users, and they are quite aggressive about it.

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