10 PC Office Data Storage Recommendations
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Taking a backup of a NAS is pretty easy if it is not large. You can just make a tarball and copy it off with a simple script.
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@scottalanmiller said:
So.... not encrypted for all intents and purposes? How would this not be the same as taping the password to the front? In fact it would be worse, a thief wouldn't even figure out that it was encrypted.
You boot with it in and remove after it boots. That's not crazy difficult.
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@scottalanmiller said:
basically none do it.
That I agree with. Doesn't mean it right.
So you are telling me if a 10 employee doctor office came to you and said "I was told we needed to encrypt our data" you would say "fuggetaboutit"?
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@BRRABill said:
You boot with it in and remove after it boots. That's not crazy difficult.
You've never met a doctor. Literally never met a doctor who could or would do this. Never, ever. You'd have to train them to power down, find their USB stick, plug in, power up, wait, verify, unplug, hide and secure the USB stick.
Ha. Will never happen. Never.
And no NAS supports this either, that I know of, it's so impractical that no one is making the tools for this process. But it is moot, no doctor or attorney will consider it.
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@BRRABill said:
So you are telling me if a 10 employee doctor office came to you and said "I was told we needed to encrypt our data" you would say "fuggetaboutit"?
Of course. My job is to protect them from themselves. Doctors have no idea what they need. They should never be making technology decisions. Any doctor demanding that kind of control is going to be dangerous. You need doctors asking about security, not determining how to secure things.
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Doctors want it immediately. If it doesn't happen in about 10 seconds it's taken too long.
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@johnhooks said:
Doctors want it immediately. If it doesn't happen in about 10 seconds it's taken too long.
Immediately and with no intervention from them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
You've never met a doctor. Literally never met a doctor who could or would do this. Never, ever. You'd have to train them to power down, find their USB stick, plug in, power up, wait, verify, unplug, hide and secure the USB stick.
They won't but their staff will. I work with a doctors who would have their staff do this.
It's a bit of a reach, yes, I will agree.
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@BRRABill said:
They won't but their staff will. I work with a doctors who would have their staff do this.
Now picture this.... this has to be done EVERY time that the system restarts. Whether a reboot or power loss or whatever. Even just a software reboot.
The USB stick has to be stored somewhere. Someone has to find it. Someone has to reboot the system with it in. This takes time.
How many times will this problem come up before the USB stick is discretely left in place, accidentally left in place or things go down and no one can figure out what to do?
Realistically, it doesn't work. And there is no legal or practical reason for doing it. Why even have the discussion? Instead, why don't they just lock up the NAS?
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So as with any discussion of this nature, the first thing to do is sit down the people driving the discussion and say....
We need to stop leading with technical solutions and instead step back and define our goals and work from there. What is the business goal that we hope to accomplish?
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I'll start a new thread on this.
I hear what you are saying.
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@MattSpeller said:
@BRRABill I can post some screen shots of the OS in here if you'd like - just let me know what you're curious about.
@MattSpeller: How do you do backups of your Synology NAS?
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@BRRABill we backup to a larger synology NAS using their integrated stuff
Edit: this is all browser based - that's a screen shot of chrome
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Does their integrated stuff do full backups each time, or incremental?
Can you tell me a little more about it?
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@BRRABill said:
Does their integrated stuff do full backups each time, or incremental?
Can you tell me a little more about it?
You can't do incremental backups unless you set up multiple volumes. If you only have one volume it will only do a full backup.
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@BRRABill said:
Does their integrated stuff do full backups each time, or incremental?
Can you tell me a little more about it?
Our setup is pretty ... unique and I wouldn't recommend it.
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@MattSpeller said:
Synology DS412+ (cloudsync user's folders is niiiiiice)
Setup a backup to cloud if you have the bandwidth, IOsafe or something else if you dont.
This is what I am looking to get more info on.
I convinced them to stop storing data on desktops and buy a NAS. Now I am just looking for the last peice ... how do get their data from the NAS to an offsite location.
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@BRRABill Well I can tell you that the cloudsync thing is pretty slick. It's like modern day folder redirection but better. Can go into more detail with screen shots etc if you like.
For offsite backups we replicate to another synology nas using their built in software. It works.... alright. I'd prefer another way but we work with what we've got.
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@johnhooks said:
You can't do incremental backups unless you set up multiple volumes. If you only have one volume it will only do a full backup.
I was browsing through the help files for the device, and it looks like you can do other than full backup? Or am I reading this wrong?
"With the block-level backup option, your NAS will back up only modified blocks, and this is practical especially when the backup is executed over the Internet"
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@BRRABill said:
@johnhooks said:
You can't do incremental backups unless you set up multiple volumes. If you only have one volume it will only do a full backup.
I was browsing through the help files for the device, and it looks like you can do other than full backup? Or am I reading this wrong?
"With the block-level backup option, your NAS will back up only modified blocks, and this is practical especially when the backup is executed over the Internet"
You can do it, but you need to set up more than one volume on the disks. It won't do it if you only set up one large volume. So either make multiple volumes, attach a USB drive, or send it over the network.
