Upstate NY ranked Worst Place to Live
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Yes, I agree, very much an American concept that the peak healthy child bearing years are too young to be having kids. Even in Europe they don't have this concept. And because the rest of the world doesn't have the taboo around it, they don't have the social problems around it either.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yes, I agree, very much an American concept that the peak healthy child bearing years are too young to be having kids. Even in Europe they don't have this concept. And because the rest of the world doesn't have the taboo around it, they don't have the social problems around it either.
What's the acceptable child bearing age in Europe?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Yes, I agree, very much an American concept that the peak healthy child bearing years are too young to be having kids. Even in Europe they don't have this concept. And because the rest of the world doesn't have the taboo around it, they don't have the social problems around it either.
What's the acceptable child bearing age in Europe?
Depends on the country. In much of it something like 15+, but 14 isn't some crazy number, just on the young side. Basically everything is 5-7 years younger there. Drinking age is 14 - 16 normally. For example.
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The drinking thing I can actually understand.
What is the age of majority in Europe, in general?
Is it more expected/understood that the parents of the 15+ year old that is having a child to be staying home with their parents for a while raising that child?
How does that effect schooling?
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@Dashrender said:
The drinking thing I can actually understand.
What is the age of majority in Europe, in general?
Is it more expected/understood that the parents of the 15+ year old that is having a child to be staying home with their parents for a while raising that child?
Throughout Europe the Age of Consent is now 14+. Spain was the last one to raise it from 13 a few months ago. But in Europe, kids live with their parents, generally, at least until married and often even when their own kids are little. So living at home with your parents while you have kids of your own is totally normal, even if you weren't having kids until you were 25. The average age of moving out from your parents' home is in the late 20s and climbing.
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I've heard that's becoming the norm in the US too, at least the living with parents late into the 20's, not sure about having kids and still living with parents.
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@Dashrender said:
I've heard that's becoming the norm in the US too, at least the living with parents late into the 20's, not sure about having kids and still living with parents.
This is fairly common in Upstate NY that I've seen. But we already see that it is one of the worst places to live so it may not be indicative of the rest of the US.
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@Dashrender said:
I've heard that's becoming the norm in the US too, at least the living with parents late into the 20's, not sure about having kids and still living with parents.
Few people want to be married and living with their parents. Although our housemates from Spain are in their late 20s (28/26) and while not married are basically married and live together with his parents. They don't like it, but it isn't super abnormal either.
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I think there is still a pretty deep line in the sand with regards to living with parents into the 20's vs raising your kids in your parents house.
I'd imagine that the situation applies.... (child pregnancy, child out of wedlock etc)
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@DustinB3403 said:
I think there is still a pretty deep line in the sand with regards to living with parents into the 20's vs raising your kids in your parents house.
I'd imagine that the situation applies.... (child pregnancy, child out of wedlock etc)
Not really. It is traditional to do both in nearly all cultures. You live at home a decade past the average child bearing ages and naturally you are raising those kids at home. It is purely an American taboo that you are sensing. The rest of the world doesn't have that feeling at all. Some people specifically move back home so that their parents can help raise the kids.
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@DustinB3403 said:
I think there is still a pretty deep line in the sand with regards to living with parents into the 20's vs raising your kids in your parents house.
I'd imagine that the situation applies.... (child pregnancy, child out of wedlock etc)
We may end up living with my parents again in a few months (if our house sells). We won't be there for long. Rent around us in upstate NY is insane so it would be much more economical to do.
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@DustinB3403 said:
I think there is still a pretty deep line in the sand with regards to living with parents into the 20's vs raising your kids in your parents house.
I'd imagine that the situation applies.... (child pregnancy, child out of wedlock etc)
Ohhh so not true. Three of my wife's siblings have all lived at her parents home with married partner and kids... sure, child pregnancy, but they were adults in their late 20's (29/31) yet still living with the parents.
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@coliver Want a few rooms to rent? I'm sure I'm cheaper than the common land lord
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@DustinB3403 said:
@coliver Want a few rooms to rent? I'm sure I'm cheaper than the common land lord
Probably, if you look for a rental 2-3 hours north of us generally it is much less expensive. 1-2 bedroom apartments around us regularly go for 800-1000$.
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@coliver Where in NY are you?
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@coliver said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@coliver Want a few rooms to rent? I'm sure I'm cheaper than the common land lord
Probably, if you look for a rental 2-3 hours north of us generally it is much less expensive. 1-2 bedroom apartments around us regularly go for 800-1000$.
that's what they go for in Omaha, NE.
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I couldn't even thing about living with my parents now at 28. I moved out when I was 19 and haven't looked back since.
I dislike the area they live in very much and my parents are very religious (judgmental).
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@DustinB3403 said:
@coliver Where in NY are you?
Foothills of the Catskills ~1 hour east of Binghamton.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@coliver Want a few rooms to rent? I'm sure I'm cheaper than the common land lord
Probably, if you look for a rental 2-3 hours north of us generally it is much less expensive. 1-2 bedroom apartments around us regularly go for 800-1000$.
that's what they go for in Omaha, NE.
Right, we have are extremely rural here. The county seat has ~5000-6000 people.
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Ah, yeah you're about 4 hours away.
$800 - $1000 isn't horrible for an entire apartment, on a lease or not?
