Anti-Malware for Business Options



  • So we've recently cut over to Avast Business Security - Cloud Addition and it works well enough. But we would also like to have an Anti-Malware software that we can run on the client machines.

    Does anyone have any recommendations?


  • Service Provider

    MalwareBytes.



  • It is a pretty great product, but I doubt that they'll spend for it for all of our machines.


  • Service Provider

    Not many options for the "they won't pay for it" world.


  • Service Provider

    Simple answer..... if you can't afford to run Windows, you can't afford to run Windows.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    Simple answer..... if you can't afford to run Windows, you can't afford to run Windows.

    This is something that even though I mentally understand what you are saying... it just so hard to get businesses to understand.

    Talking to management - you see this pc? Yeah, this $500 PC. It doesn't cost $500. It really costs $1500 because you have to add Office to it, and AV and AM, and , and and....


  • Service Provider

    Exactly. And that is before you figure out the cost of managing it. Enterprises figure a PC costs $1,000 to buy, $2,000 to deploy and $1,500 a year to support, more or less.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    Exactly. And that is before you figure out the cost of managing it. Enterprises figure a PC costs $1,000 to buy, $2,000 to deploy and $1,500 a year to support, more or less.

    Holy crap! So over 5 years that PC will cost $10,500?



  • @coliver said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    Exactly. And that is before you figure out the cost of managing it. Enterprises figure a PC costs $1,000 to buy, $2,000 to deploy and $1,500 a year to support, more or less.

    Holy crap! So over 5 years that PC will cost $10,500?

    when you take the management software and support personal into account.. yeah that's probably right.

    My company pays a lot more than that when they consider my salary.


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    @coliver said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    Exactly. And that is before you figure out the cost of managing it. Enterprises figure a PC costs $1,000 to buy, $2,000 to deploy and $1,500 a year to support, more or less.

    Holy crap! So over 5 years that PC will cost $10,500?

    In an enterprise, absolutely. Think about the labour, licensing and hardware costs of a PC. It's an enormous cost. IT isn't cheap. You can't just throw a computer on someone's desk and let it run. People have to manage that or you have to spend a fortune on licensing to lower the management cost. Nothing is free.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @coliver said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    Exactly. And that is before you figure out the cost of managing it. Enterprises figure a PC costs $1,000 to buy, $2,000 to deploy and $1,500 a year to support, more or less.

    Holy crap! So over 5 years that PC will cost $10,500?

    In an enterprise, absolutely. Think about the labour, licensing and hardware costs of a PC. It's an enormous cost. IT isn't cheap. You can't just throw a computer on someone's desk and let it run. People have to manage that or you have to spend a fortune on licensing to lower the management cost. Nothing is free.

    Understood just never thought about how much the ongoing costs are for a machine.


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    @Dashrender said:

    My company pays a lot more than that when they consider my salary.

    I was just going to say, SMBs aren't any cheaper. When you have one IT guy handling twenty desktops, let's assume that the salary for that person is $50K. It costs $70K to pay him $50K. In a 20 person company likely 80% of the time would be for desktops, 20% for servers, networking, planning, etc. That is $2,800 per PC, per year!!


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    Now you might have someone with a $40K salary and forty desktops. But it is still a lot of money. But if you have more than one IT person, need MSP support, etc. it expands rapidly..



  • I'm at X for 110 PCs and 10 servers... so we're doing better, but my pay is higher than Scott's number too.


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    Some standard costs for a normal PC:

    • Hardware acquisition, typically $800 - $1,500 (desktop, monitor, web cam, etc.)
    • Windows software licensing (cheap, not non-zero)
    • AV per machine
    • AntiMalware per machine
    • Windows Server CAL per user or machine
    • MS Office (all different levels, but not cheap)
    • Email
    • Cabling
    • Switch port (every desktop uses ~1/40th of a switch for another $30 cost per machine or so.)
    • Desk phone (plus cabling, ports, switches)
    • Small increase in bandwidth usage
    • Software licensing for all desktop management tools
    • Software licensing for all end user use software (almost all desktop users need some unique, non-free software)

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    @Dashrender said:

    I'm at X for 110 PCs and 10 servers... so we're doing better, but my pay is higher than Scott's number too.

    Right, I was targeting someone that was principally focused on desktops. And it came out very high. The enterprise numbers that I have heard are like $1,000 - $1,500 per desktop, per year.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    I'm at X for 110 PCs and 10 servers... so we're doing better, but my pay is higher than Scott's number too.

    Right, I was targeting someone that was principally focused on desktops. And it came out very high. The enterprise numbers that I have heard are like $1,000 - $1,500 per desktop, per year.

    I'm guessing we are closer to the higher range that you mentioned.. that's all I was trying to say.


 

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