Storage Question
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@BRRABill said:
That's the issue with buying a server every 10 years. You lose track of this stuff.
Just looked at the "other" thread. 95 posts to 16. Not too shabby. And this one is still active.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Just looked at the "other" thread. 95 posts to 16. Not too shabby. And this one is still active.
This was like a live chat!
And no, I don't think this one is done yet. Not even remotely.
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@scottalanmiller said:
We (NTG) don't use third party drives with proprietary server setups
If investing in a Dell, for example, we get all Dell as compatibility and warranty support are the big value.Do you ever use SSDs in DELL servers? Their prices are re-dic-culous!!
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@BRRABill said:
This was like a live chat!
yeah, the platform is excellent for rapid response. It gets people engaged in the discussion because it is updating in real time.
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@BRRABill said:
And no, I don't think this one is done yet. Not even remotely.
Just warming up, lol.
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This project is similar to Dustin's. You're basically starting over.
Great way to start that conversation is with a list of current servers and your goals. The goals don't include hardware typically, FYI.
Goals could be more reliable, lower power/heating/cooling/consolidation, etc.
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@BRRABill said:
Do you ever use SSDs in DELL servers? Their prices are re-dic-culous!!
That will be the same with HP too. It's a combination of factors. A big part of it is the built in support SLAs and replacement overhead.
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@Dashrender said:
This project is similar to Dustin's. You're basically starting over.
Great place to be! You can to step back and consider all of the options! Nearly a greenfield experience.
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Over 100 posts in 2h, whoa
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@BRRABill That's good & totally legit
I think you'll fit in well man, hope you stick around
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@BRRABill said:
@MattSpeller said:
Over 100 posts in 2h, whoa
Half of them are from me, though!
nothing wrong with that! you're providing answers!
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@Dashrender nothing worse than a thread where OP wanders off
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@BRRABill said:
@MattSpeller said:
Over 100 posts in 2h, whoa
Half of them are from me, though!
Not surprising, that's pretty much always how a thread works. You have all of the core information for your issue.
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It is pretty important in a healthy interaction that it is not really about us (us = non-OPs) providing answers but really about us helping you (you = OP) to talk through your needs, though processes, answer some little stuff and help you to figure out what will make sense for your environment.
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So, to take a step back...
We are a smallish shop. We used to have 60-70 employees in our heyday, now we have 15.
We currently have 4 DELL Windows 2003 servers. A PDC that is also our data server. A BDC that is basically just a BDC and VPN server. A 3rd party mail server (MDaemon). And a server I've already retired that was basically just being used as a backup machine, back when we had tapes. (We now use a DATTO device.) When we were back at 60-70 employees, these servers sometimes had other uses. Now, not so much.
I'd like to maintian both the data server and mail server on site. I have no requirements other than moving off of Server 2003. In fact, if it wasn't for having to do that, we'd probably never even been having this conversation.
It sounds like the recommendation as of now is (hardware independent)
- Move the data and mail servers into VMs on the new DELL server.
- Use the data server as the DC and VPN server.
- Roll without a backup DC.
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@MattSpeller said:
I think you'll fit in well man, hope you stick around
I prefer texting/writing to talking. I'll be fine here!
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@BRRABill said:
@MattSpeller said:
I think you'll fit in well man, hope you stick around
I prefer texting/writing to talking. I'll be fine here!
Same here
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Part of the issue is, anyone can buy anything. Or be recommended to buy anything. But it is optimal?
As the keeper of the IT purse here, I've been proud we'll lasted so long on 10 years old servers.
I'm just looking to 100% maximize this next investment.
Thanks to everyone for the discussion today. It's been awesome!
