Backup File Server to DAS
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@IT-ADMIN said:
of course one server, since i will use DAS,
Argh, but why are you going to use DAS if NAS can back up all of your servers? We are going in circles of you not explaining what is motivating you, then confusing DAS and NAS, then starting over. Please just tell us the secret that you are holding back.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one
No, you skipped my article. DAS, NAS and SAN have no price difference. Anyone telling you that they are different based on cost does not understand the terms and you should not talk to them about storage further. We are only talking about protocols here, that there is a cost difference makes no sense conceptually.
no i take a look over it, but this article don't discuss prices, it just discuss technical differences between the 2 technologies NAS and SAN
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
of course one server, since i will use DAS,
Argh, but why are you going to use DAS if NAS can back up all of your servers? We are going in circles of you not explaining what is motivating you, then confusing DAS and NAS, then starting over. Please just tell us the secret that you are holding back.
loooool i swear there is no secret
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@IT-ADMIN said:
no i take a look over it, but this article don't discuss prices, it just discuss technical differences between the 2 technologies NAS and SAN
But if you understand what they are, you know that they are the same physical devices, so there is no price difference. Nearly all devices, and certainly all lower cost ones, that an SMB would consider are both NAS and SAN and it is up to you how you use them.
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ok, ok
there is 2 option for me :
buy a SAN and keep using windows backup
buy a NAS and buy another backup solution
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@IT-ADMIN said:
loooool i swear there is no secret
what i want was described in detailed in my previous postBut didn't you state that there were multiple servers to back up? Isn't there value in not wasting money with DAS because you would need one DAS for each machine?
You've been given a really cheap and safer option to use another backup software to NAS. Save money, get more features. Why would you continue to look at Windows Backup or DAS? We've established that both of those are bad for you, right? So what is making you continue to think that they are viable? There is something that you are not telling us that is totally driving your decision making here.
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no, no
what i was thinking is that SAN is very expensive, this is what makes me choosing DAS over it
i learned from the spicework virtualization course that SAN is the most expensive one for this reason SAN was the last option on my list
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@IT-ADMIN said:
no, no
what i was thinking is that SAN is very expensive, this is what makes me choosing DAS over itBut we aren't talking about SAN at all, DAS and NAS. SAN should not have entered the discussion.
But SAN and DAS are always the same price as they are just two ways to hook up the same thing.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i learned from the spicework virtualization course that SAN is the most expensive one for this reason SAN was the last option on my list
External storage is the most expensive, but all external storage is expensive if you don't need it. You are talking about comparing a SAN to having "Nothing". Of course buying something is more expensive than having nothing.
The only reason that SAN exists, in theory, is to lower costs as it has no other advantage other than saving money at large scale.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
no, no
what i was thinking is that SAN is very expensive, this is what makes me choosing DAS over itBut we aren't talking about SAN at all, DAS and NAS. SAN should not have entered the discussion.
But SAN and DAS are always the same price as they are just two ways to hook up the same thing.
so you told me that SAN and DAS are always the same price
what do you think about this
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i get a badge from SW based on a test regarding this
but it looks like this course not having exact information -
@IT-ADMIN said:
i get a badge from SW based on a test regarding this
but it looks like this course not having exact informationSpiceworks is a marketing company, they are not an IT or technical company. They know nothing about this stuff. That's like getting a badge from a hot dog vendor saying that you are good at Systems Administration because they sell lots of hot dogs to IT people. Why would you get information like that from someone not in IT?
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when i see SAN : money falling from heaven, i remove the SAN from my list lol
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@IT-ADMIN said:
what do you think about this
I think that you need to work on identifying when someone is in marketing or sales rather than an IT professional. Spiceworks is completely the wrong place to be getting that kind of information. They are only there to sell things for the vendors who sponsor them, nothing else. Why would marketing interns have any idea what a SAN even means?
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@IT-ADMIN said:
but it looks like this course not having exact information
There were some complaints about their using "Sam" too to confuse people into thinking that they paid "SAM" to make sure that the information was correct. Because obviously this wasn't checked by anyone.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Why would you get information like that from someone not in IT?
SW not IT
Of course it isn't IT. Why would you associate the two? They've never claimed to be anything of the sort.
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Spiceworks has always been completely open and honest about being a marketing company and nothing else. They are ad people, and very good at it. They are run by marketing people, their hire all marketing people. They only have just enough IT staff to support the hundreds of marketing and sales people that they have. There is no secret there. No different than any other marketing firm.
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oh, now i see, really i was ignorant, i trusted SW
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The badges should only be done for laughs. You gain nothing from having them. Sure you might ween some information out of their "University" that you hadn't known before. But take it with a huge grain of salt.
