Backup File Server to DAS
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the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@Dashrender said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
windows built in backup
Then you are right back to square one - your backups will be limited to one day.
no, i will have daily version of my backups because windows backup can do this if the destination is a local HD
You MUST stop saying local or network. You are confusing yourself. The options are only block and file. Block is what you are calling "local" and file is what you are calling "remote" and Windows calls "shared."
If you need using terms that don't make sense, you will keep making bad decisions because you can't differentiate the technologies properly.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i have been using it for a long time, i think it is great
the only limitation that i had is how to keep my backup externally
now that i will buy a NAS, this problem will be solved
You stated that this was not true in the original post.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
ooooooh i'm very very sorry i confused between NAS and SAN
Did you read the article about understanding NAS and SAN that I linked for you?
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@IT-ADMIN said:
in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one
No, you skipped my article. DAS, NAS and SAN have no price difference. Anyone telling you that they are different based on cost does not understand the terms and you should not talk to them about storage further. We are only talking about protocols here, that there is a cost difference makes no sense conceptually.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
great, now i understand
i made my decision, buy a DAS and connect it with my file server and i'm done
But are very vulnerable to ransonware.
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@Dashrender said:
Well, that really depends. You don't have to do crazy expensive SAN. The Drobo 5n mentioned earlier might be perfect for this.
No, the Drobo 5D, a DAS unit, was mentioned. The Drobo 5N is a NAS and only a NAS. It is, in fact, the only pure NAS available on the sub $50K market. The only SMB NAS device made.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i think i will buy a RAID 1 DAS, what do you think ??
I don't think anyone agrees that that is a good idea, because you are unnecessarily exposing and limiting yourself. What is your reason for going that route?
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i want the cheapest option
They are all the same price. You would have to look at specific devices. Most DAS, SAN and NAS are the same units in this price range. So it is all in how you hook them up, primarily.
The cheapest option would be different backup software with a NAS for all of your devices to backup to, surely.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB
For one server or all of the servers?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB
For one server or all of the servers?
of course one server, since i will use DAS,
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@IT-ADMIN said:
of course one server, since i will use DAS,
Argh, but why are you going to use DAS if NAS can back up all of your servers? We are going in circles of you not explaining what is motivating you, then confusing DAS and NAS, then starting over. Please just tell us the secret that you are holding back.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one
No, you skipped my article. DAS, NAS and SAN have no price difference. Anyone telling you that they are different based on cost does not understand the terms and you should not talk to them about storage further. We are only talking about protocols here, that there is a cost difference makes no sense conceptually.
no i take a look over it, but this article don't discuss prices, it just discuss technical differences between the 2 technologies NAS and SAN
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
of course one server, since i will use DAS,
Argh, but why are you going to use DAS if NAS can back up all of your servers? We are going in circles of you not explaining what is motivating you, then confusing DAS and NAS, then starting over. Please just tell us the secret that you are holding back.
loooool i swear there is no secret
what i want was described in detailed in my previous post -
@IT-ADMIN said:
no i take a look over it, but this article don't discuss prices, it just discuss technical differences between the 2 technologies NAS and SAN
But if you understand what they are, you know that they are the same physical devices, so there is no price difference. Nearly all devices, and certainly all lower cost ones, that an SMB would consider are both NAS and SAN and it is up to you how you use them.
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ok, ok
there is 2 option for me :
buy a SAN and keep using windows backup
buy a NAS and buy another backup solution
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@IT-ADMIN said:
loooool i swear there is no secret
what i want was described in detailed in my previous postBut didn't you state that there were multiple servers to back up? Isn't there value in not wasting money with DAS because you would need one DAS for each machine?
You've been given a really cheap and safer option to use another backup software to NAS. Save money, get more features. Why would you continue to look at Windows Backup or DAS? We've established that both of those are bad for you, right? So what is making you continue to think that they are viable? There is something that you are not telling us that is totally driving your decision making here.
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no, no
what i was thinking is that SAN is very expensive, this is what makes me choosing DAS over it
i learned from the spicework virtualization course that SAN is the most expensive one for this reason SAN was the last option on my list -
@IT-ADMIN said:
no, no
what i was thinking is that SAN is very expensive, this is what makes me choosing DAS over itBut we aren't talking about SAN at all, DAS and NAS. SAN should not have entered the discussion.
But SAN and DAS are always the same price as they are just two ways to hook up the same thing.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
i learned from the spicework virtualization course that SAN is the most expensive one for this reason SAN was the last option on my list
External storage is the most expensive, but all external storage is expensive if you don't need it. You are talking about comparing a SAN to having "Nothing". Of course buying something is more expensive than having nothing.
The only reason that SAN exists, in theory, is to lower costs as it has no other advantage other than saving money at large scale.
