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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
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      the limitation comes when you choose network shared folder
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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by Dashrender

        To get what you want, you will have to use a DAS or a SAN. The only difference between DAS and SAN are the protocol you use to talk to the device. i.e. DAS = SATA or SCSI communciation, SAN = iSCSI or other block protocol.

        *edited for clarity

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
          last edited by

          ooooooh i'm very very sorry i confused between NAS and SAN

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN
            last edited by

            in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
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              great, now i understand
              i made my decision, buy a DAS and connect it with my file server and i'm done 😉

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

                Well, that really depends. You don't have to do crazy expensive SAN. The Drobo 5n mentioned earlier might be perfect for this.

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by IT-ADMIN

                  i think i will buy a RAID 1 DAS, what do you think ??

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by

                    i want the cheapest option

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
                      last edited by

                      the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        windows built in backup

                        Then you are right back to square one - your backups will be limited to one day.

                        no, i will have daily version of my backups because windows backup can do this if the destination is a local HD

                        You MUST stop saying local or network. You are confusing yourself. The options are only block and file. Block is what you are calling "local" and file is what you are calling "remote" and Windows calls "shared."

                        If you need using terms that don't make sense, you will keep making bad decisions because you can't differentiate the technologies properly.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          i have been using it for a long time, i think it is great
                          the only limitation that i had is how to keep my backup externally
                          now that i will buy a NAS, this problem will be solved 🙂

                          You stated that this was not true in the original post.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            ooooooh i'm very very sorry i confused between NAS and SAN

                            Did you read the article about understanding NAS and SAN that I linked for you?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

                              No, you skipped my article. DAS, NAS and SAN have no price difference. Anyone telling you that they are different based on cost does not understand the terms and you should not talk to them about storage further. We are only talking about protocols here, that there is a cost difference makes no sense conceptually.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                great, now i understand
                                i made my decision, buy a DAS and connect it with my file server and i'm done 😉

                                But are very vulnerable to ransonware.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Well, that really depends. You don't have to do crazy expensive SAN. The Drobo 5n mentioned earlier might be perfect for this.

                                  No, the Drobo 5D, a DAS unit, was mentioned. The Drobo 5N is a NAS and only a NAS. It is, in fact, the only pure NAS available on the sub $50K market. The only SMB NAS device made.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    i think i will buy a RAID 1 DAS, what do you think ??

                                    I don't think anyone agrees that that is a good idea, because you are unnecessarily exposing and limiting yourself. What is your reason for going that route?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                      last edited by

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      i want the cheapest option

                                      They are all the same price. You would have to look at specific devices. Most DAS, SAN and NAS are the same units in this price range. So it is all in how you hook them up, primarily.

                                      The cheapest option would be different backup software with a NAS for all of your devices to backup to, surely.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB

                                        For one server or all of the servers?

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                                        • IT-ADMINI
                                          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB

                                          For one server or all of the servers?

                                          of course one server, since i will use DAS,

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            of course one server, since i will use DAS,

                                            Argh, but why are you going to use DAS if NAS can back up all of your servers? We are going in circles of you not explaining what is motivating you, then confusing DAS and NAS, then starting over. Please just tell us the secret that you are holding back.

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