Imaging Rights - Windows - Looking for clarification
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The method is the question, can microsoft define how you can deploy the ISO to a target machine, and do they currently.
VS is there a scapegoat here that if I use OEM Media to pull the ISO off and put in into a Fog Server, can I then use that ISO to restore my computer?
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Look at anything from dpaul.
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@DustinB3403 said:
VS is there a scapegoat here that if I use OEM Media to pull the ISO off and put in into a Fog Server, can I then use that ISO to restore my computer?
Of course and I've seen no suggestion to the contrary.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Look at anything from dpaul.
I'm reading his stuff. I see no contradiction. Once you buy reimaging rights you are good to go. What's the issue. Do you have a quote to the contrary?
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You need to explain why you think there is a question because just stating that you see one doesn't guide me to seeing what you are seeing.
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He's saying, in order to use an OEM Recovery Disk (and product key on any windows device) that you must own VL to reimage this machine even with the OEM ISO.
I'm on the stance that if I'm using the OEM Recovery ISO, that it doesn't matter how I deploy it to the target.
Am I wrong?
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@DustinB3403 said:
He's saying, in order to use an OEM Recovery Disk (and product key on any windows device) that you must own VL to reimage this machine even with the OEM ISO.
Of course you need that, VL is the only source of reimaging rights.
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@DustinB3403 said:
I'm on the stance that if I'm using the OEM Recovery ISO, that it doesn't matter how I deploy it to the target.
Am I wrong?
As far as I know, yes. Imaging is granted by VL. Once you are talking about reimaging rights, VL is assumed as that is where you gain those rights.
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But you can reinstall (reimage) a target machine by using the Recovery Disk.
So where is the difference?
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@DustinB3403 said:
But you can reinstall (reimage) a target machine by using the Recovery Disk.
You can resintall, not reimage. You can't just call installing imaging, those are two different things.
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The similarity is that the machine is back to an OEM state.
How does it matter how it go to that state.
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You may be allowed to do a one to one image to a unique image for each machine. That's very possible, I'm not sure there. But reimaging from a standard image is exclusive to VL.
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You answered your own question in the first post. I am not sure what the heck your issue it..
First the definition of imaging.
@DustinB3403 said:
Q: What are "reimaging rights"?
A: Reimaging is the copying of software onto multiple devices from one standard image.@DustinB3403 said:
OEM-Specific Information
Reimaging is the copying of software onto multiple devices from one standard image.now on to OEM
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All of that basically said you can use original OEM of customized OEM images to resinstall only on the same hardware that the OEM image was originally used used on. AKA a 1 to 1.
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@DustinB3403 said:
The similarity is that the machine is back to an OEM state.
How does it matter how it go to that state.
It doesn't - how you get an OEM image back on a machine is irrelevant. but doing so has NOTHING to do with reimaging rights, because you are not reimaging, you are reinstalling the OEM stuff.
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The whole idea of Imaging Rights is the use of VL media deployed to multiple machines. If you are still using the OEM media, you're not using imaging rights.
And as JB said, you can deploy/image/reinstall the OEM supplied software to the hardware it came with however you want.So onto your other question - why would you use FOG to deploy OEM images to a machine? This seems like a waste of time. When using FOG, you will more than likely be using VL media to deploy images.
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The contention (at least on SW) has always been how you install said ISO to a machine. I've always said, you can deploy an OEM Image (which in my opinion means what came with the device when you bought it) to the machine without any legal issue, in any way that you want.
So I've always been correct, if you guys agree with me.
The only trouble comes in if you ever change that image, that you legally aren't able to use the OEM product key.
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@DustinB3403 said:
The contention (at least on SW) has always been how you install said ISO to a machine. I've always said, you can deploy an OEM Image (which in my opinion means what came with the device when you bought it) to the machine without any legal issue, in any way that you want.
This may or may not be true. What is important is that it is not considered related to reimaging rights.
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@DustinB3403 said:
The only trouble comes in if you ever change that image, that you legally aren't able to use the OEM product key.
Not sure if there is an issue there either. I know how reimaging works, I am unclear how OEM installs are allowed as I never do them (reimaging is just too valuable.)
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I'm curious if you aren't allowed to update the image with windows security updates.
Technically, you'd be changing the image, but for security reasons.
I wonder if there are any loopholes...
