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    Network Shim found on Asus computers

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    • nadnerBN
      nadnerB
      last edited by

      It's to play games on. Not ask questions about.
      😛

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      • nadnerBN
        nadnerB
        last edited by

        Seriously though, is a driver change all that's needed or is there something more nefarious lurking in there?
        Having an inbuilt QoS system seems a bit creepy to me.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre
          last edited by

          Has anybody reached out to Asus to figure out what it is yet?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @nadnerB
            last edited by

            @nadnerB said:

            Seriously though, is a driver change all that's needed or is there something more nefarious lurking in there?
            Having an inbuilt QoS system seems a bit creepy to me.

            Sure a driver change is all that is needed. Now the better question, does one exist without GameFirst?

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
              last edited by

              Go straight to the NIC manufacturer's website?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said:

                Go straight to the NIC manufacturer's website?

                This doesn't always work. Sometimes the end integrator requires the chip manufacturer to put a code that requires the use of proprietary drivers. 😞

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre said:

                  Go straight to the NIC manufacturer's website?

                  Lenovo made that impossible. No idea here, but when Lenovo had a shim they made sure there was no driver available except for their own.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre
                    last edited by

                    Welp... No more Asus products for me!

                    That sucks too, cuz I like their Android & Windows Tablets.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said:

                      Welp... No more Asus products for me!

                      That sucks too, cuz I like their Android & Windows Tablets.

                      I say the same for Lenovo, because I really like my Yoga 2 Pro, heck the whole Yoga line both Ideapad and Thinkpad (though the Ideapads are actually much better in my opinion).

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @dafyre said:

                        Welp... No more Asus products for me!

                        That sucks too, cuz I like their Android & Windows Tablets.

                        I say the same for Lenovo, because I really like my Yoga 2 Pro, heck the whole Yoga line both Ideapad and Thinkpad (though the Ideapads are actually much better in my opinion).

                        I moved into the "never again" category with Lenovo last year 🙂

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @dafyre said:

                          Welp... No more Asus products for me!

                          That sucks too, cuz I like their Android & Windows Tablets.

                          I say the same for Lenovo, because I really like my Yoga 2 Pro, heck the whole Yoga line both Ideapad and Thinkpad (though the Ideapads are actually much better in my opinion).

                          I moved into the "never again" category with Lenovo last year 🙂

                          I haven't gotten there yet - but I completely understand why you say that. 😞

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                          • W
                            WingCreative
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                            Definitely disappointed in ASUS for this, they have been one of my favorite brands for consumer hardware for a while.

                            This positive bias makes me want to give them the benefit of the doubt and suggest that they could have had mostly good intentions on this - since it's on ROG hardware only, I can see the software being intended to prioritize gaming-related network traffic or something benignly dumb like that.

                            Hopefully they will inform us of its purpose in their apology post explaining how they've disabled it by default or something like that... A man can dream, right? 🙂

                            But yeah, they will be last on my list of hardware vendors when I actually get around to upgrading my PC now.

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                            • nadnerBN
                              nadnerB
                              last edited by

                              It seems that anything "Gamer" related has it installed.
                              http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/B85PRO_GAMER/

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                                last edited by

                                @nadnerB said:

                                It seems that anything "Gamer" related has it installed.
                                http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/B85PRO_GAMER/

                                It's generally easy to sell to gamers based on slick marketing and the market's desire for performance above all things often means that they have short memories and don't hold vendors accountable for bad behaviour. So the risks to Asus are low, in a year no gamer will care and Asus can do this again. One of the many risks of dealing with consumer grade equipment.

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