Oracle Losing, But is Open Source Winning
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Oracle is seeing the database market shrink as open source databases become the major players in deployments. But instead of money shifting from Oracle to open source, the money is just leaving the market.
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Ouch. How long until they start charging for Java updates? :trollface: lol
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I wonder how bad this is for the market in general that the money is just leaving the market?
I liked the statement in the article,
"shrink [a $9 billion relational database market] to $3 billion and take a third of the market."
Shows that the open source folks aren't trying to get all the riches - but unless the open source businesses are also charity organizations, doesn't this fly in the face of what @scottalanmiller has been saying lately that it's likely illegal for those companies (assuming they are publicly traded) to not go after the maximum profits?
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@Dashrender said:
I wonder how bad this is for the market in general that the money is just leaving the market?
Money is leaving the database market. Money is remaining in other markets.
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@Dashrender said:
Shows that the open source folks aren't trying to get all the riches - but unless the open source businesses are also charity organizations, doesn't this fly in the face of what @scottalanmiller has been saying lately that it's likely illegal for those companies (assuming they are publicly traded) to not go after the maximum profits?
They have to go after maximum profits for themselves, not for other companies. Many people confuse profit with recklessness, they are not the same thing. The maximum profits rarely come from attempting to fleece the market.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I wonder how bad this is for the market in general that the money is just leaving the market?
Money is leaving the database market. Money is remaining in other markets.
I don't follow - using my own current project of a new open source phone system - I don't think I'll be spending anywhere near as much on add-on modules for my new open source PBX as I would on a traditional, say Mitel, type PBX. Isn't that money leaving?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Shows that the open source folks aren't trying to get all the riches - but unless the open source businesses are also charity organizations, doesn't this fly in the face of what @scottalanmiller has been saying lately that it's likely illegal for those companies (assuming they are publicly traded) to not go after the maximum profits?
They have to go after maximum profits for themselves, not for other companies. Many people confuse profit with recklessness, they are not the same thing. The maximum profits rarely come from attempting to fleece the market.
But assuming the open source company Mango.db is publicly traded - they, mango.db, have to go after maximum profits, right?
The quote indicates leaving 6 billion on the table, i.e. shrinking the market value... sure they are talking about increasing their own share, but the market overall would be shrinking. Wouldn't others step in to bring the market back to the full 9 billion? or am I missing something? the market has already shown that it's willing to pay at least 9 billion to do what they do. -
@Dashrender said:
But assuming the open source company Mango.db is publicly traded - they, mango.db, have to go after maximum profits, right?
Correct.
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@Dashrender said:
The quote indicates leaving 6 billion on the table, i.e. shrinking the market value... sure they are talking about increasing their own share, but the market overall would be shrinking. Wouldn't others step in to bring the market back to the full 9 billion? or am I missing something? the market has already shown that it's willing to pay at least 9 billion to do what they do.
The market was willing to pay $9bn when no other options existed. Other options now exist. Like any market, competition shrinks markets. Just like how IBM, HP and Dell have decimated the server market total size by lowering the cost per company. And how Amazon has. But as we have seen Amazon killing the server market still makes Amazon a LOT of money!
