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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      The collapse of the USSR is more or less an example of what you are talking about.

      I don't recall hearing about a huge war when that happened.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        The collapse of the USSR is more or less an example of what you are talking about.

        I don't recall hearing about a huge war when that happened.

        Exactly. USSR collapsed, China moved to capitalism, Europe formed a confederation.... all generally without bloodshed.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Even a relatively small monarchy like Morocco changed not its government but nearly everything else about itself in a few years, without any bloodshed or revolution.

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          • art_of_shredA
            art_of_shred Banned @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            The collapse of the USSR is more or less an example of what you are talking about.

            I don't recall hearing about a huge war when that happened.

            In more ways than one. I think this example, like a lot of other "modern revolutions" has been more of a facelift than a true revolution.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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              @art_of_shred said:

              @Dashrender said:

              The collapse of the USSR is more or less an example of what you are talking about.

              I don't recall hearing about a huge war when that happened.

              In more ways than one. I think this example, like a lot of other "modern revolutions" has been more of a facelift than a true revolution.

              One could say that about the American Revolution or the French too. At the end, France just changed monarchs. America just separated and followed much of the same tracks that England was following already.

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              • art_of_shredA
                art_of_shred Banned
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                But in the modern sense, it's often new faces for public consumption, but the same hands are steering in the background. When you get a new king, he does things his way. That's not a continuation of the old. The "new" Russian leadership is the old, but with new hats. We put fresh paint on the front and throw up a new name on the sign, but the same chef is still in the kitchen. And the public flocks in to the check out the "new" restaurant.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @art_of_shred
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                  @art_of_shred said:

                  @dafyre said:
                  A cage...staying behind bars until use and old age accept them and all chance of valor has gone beyond recall or desire.
                  Wow, TJ and LOTR in one post!

                  Thanks for that... I couldn't remember where, but it seemed to fit. And just remember... cages come in all shapes and sizes... and some, often don't look like a cage.

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                  • art_of_shredA
                    art_of_shred Banned @dafyre
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                    @dafyre said:

                    @art_of_shred said:

                    @dafyre said:
                    A cage...staying behind bars until use and old age accept them and all chance of valor has gone beyond recall or desire.
                    Wow, TJ and LOTR in one post!

                    Thanks for that... I couldn't remember where, but it seemed to fit. And just remember... cages come in all shapes and sizes... and some, often don't look like a cage.

                    Aowen, speaking to Aragorn about what she feared.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre
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                      Change won't always be bloody, and as much as we'd like to think the world is beyond such capacity.... we are constantly bombarded with things that remind us that human nature is still good at doing things violently.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @art_of_shred
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                        @art_of_shred said:

                        @dafyre said:

                        @art_of_shred said:

                        @dafyre said:
                        A cage...staying behind bars until use and old age accept them and all chance of valor has gone beyond recall or desire.
                        Wow, TJ and LOTR in one post!

                        Thanks for that... I couldn't remember where, but it seemed to fit. And just remember... cages come in all shapes and sizes... and some, often don't look like a cage.

                        Aowen, speaking to Aragorn about what she feared.

                        Thanks. Guess I'd better go read the books again, lol.

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                        • art_of_shredA
                          art_of_shred Banned
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                          They made a book out of that?!?

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre
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                            I think the books came first. 8-) Shocking isn't it?

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @art_of_shred
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                              @art_of_shred said:

                              What the heck is "one person in charge, with some oversight"? Either the dude's in charge, or he's not. If he has oversight, he's not really in charge.

                              I think we already know Scott's a bit crazy.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @A Former User
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                                @thecreativeone91 crazy should be a requirement for almost any job - need a good variety of crazy in IT.

                                I deal with people, boss sorts and categorizes like... a boss, co-worker is at one with the network. Seems to work ok for us 🙂

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