Internet Provider Change At Work
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@garak0410 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
T1 is 1.544 Mb/s. So you have 3.088 Mb/s total right now. A phone uses a maximum of 100Kb/s and generally far less.
What are you wondering about? It's kind of like asking if Lake Ontario has enough water for you to take a shower.
Just making sure this seemed normal (the deep differences in prices)...
Yes, your T1 provider is laughing all the way to the bank.
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Coax is cheap. (or more likely triax for distribution) but I'd see if you ca. Push back some and get them to do it for free!
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Or at least for a big discount.
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My guess is you have 50 Mbps download but a max of 5 Mbps upload. We actually looked at ATT U-verse for one of our locations, but all they could offer was either 512 Kbps upload or 1 Mbps. That's a no-go for VOIP based on the location in question, so we went with Charter Business and got 50/5, which is much better.
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@NetworkNerd said:
My guess is you have 50 Mbps download but a max of 5 Mbps upload. We actually looked at ATT U-verse for one of our locations, but all they could offer was either 512 Kbps upload or 1 Mbps. That's a no-go for VOIP based on the location in question, so we went with Charter Business and got 50/5, which is much better.
1Mb/s up is really, really rare these days. How AT&T and limited to that is beyond me. That had to be some whacky DSL service.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@NetworkNerd said:
My guess is you have 50 Mbps download but a max of 5 Mbps upload. We actually looked at ATT U-verse for one of our locations, but all they could offer was either 512 Kbps upload or 1 Mbps. That's a no-go for VOIP based on the location in question, so we went with Charter Business and got 50/5, which is much better.
1Mb/s up is really, really rare these days. How AT&T and limited to that is beyond me. That had to be some whacky DSL service.
Could be due to rural areas. Here in Central Kentucky if you are in the primary radius of a 'large' town or city you can get decent speeds. But in more remote areas,.. you'll be lucky to have just ONE provider. At least that was my experience a year ago.
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@g.jacobse said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@NetworkNerd said:
My guess is you have 50 Mbps download but a max of 5 Mbps upload. We actually looked at ATT U-verse for one of our locations, but all they could offer was either 512 Kbps upload or 1 Mbps. That's a no-go for VOIP based on the location in question, so we went with Charter Business and got 50/5, which is much better.
1Mb/s up is really, really rare these days. How AT&T and limited to that is beyond me. That had to be some whacky DSL service.
Could be due to rural areas. Here in Central Kentucky if you are in the primary radius of a 'large' town or city you can get decent speeds. But in more remote areas,.. you'll be lucky to have just ONE provider. At least that was my experience a year ago.
@NetworkNerd is in the middle of Dallas, the fourth largest metro in the US!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@g.jacobse said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@NetworkNerd said:
My guess is you have 50 Mbps download but a max of 5 Mbps upload. We actually looked at ATT U-verse for one of our locations, but all they could offer was either 512 Kbps upload or 1 Mbps. That's a no-go for VOIP based on the location in question, so we went with Charter Business and got 50/5, which is much better.
1Mb/s up is really, really rare these days. How AT&T and limited to that is beyond me. That had to be some whacky DSL service.
Could be due to rural areas. Here in Central Kentucky if you are in the primary radius of a 'large' town or city you can get decent speeds. But in more remote areas,.. you'll be lucky to have just ONE provider. At least that was my experience a year ago.
@NetworkNerd is in the middle of Dallas, the fourth largest metro in the US!
Well then... seems like an island of sorts. But doesn't explain the lack of available service.
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AT&T might explain the service issues.
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@g.jacobse said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@NetworkNerd said:
My guess is you have 50 Mbps download but a max of 5 Mbps upload. We actually looked at ATT U-verse for one of our locations, but all they could offer was either 512 Kbps upload or 1 Mbps. That's a no-go for VOIP based on the location in question, so we went with Charter Business and got 50/5, which is much better.
1Mb/s up is really, really rare these days. How AT&T and limited to that is beyond me. That had to be some whacky DSL service.
Could be due to rural areas. Here in Central Kentucky if you are in the primary radius of a 'large' town or city you can get decent speeds. But in more remote areas,.. you'll be lucky to have just ONE provider. At least that was my experience a year ago.
We have these issues for the most part with DSL. The majority of properties in my area, very rural upstate NY, only has options for 5mbps down / 768kbps up. Only recently do some have access to broadband speeds from local companies or Time Warner.
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We just finally got 50/5 2 years ago from TWC. That is the best we can get period. We do have the option to get a frontiernet connection but that is like 30/1 or something like that.
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@Minion-Queen said:
We just finally got 50/5 2 years ago from TWC. That is the best we can get period. We do have the option to get a frontiernet connection but that is like 30/1 or something like that.
The 50/5 is the max we are offered from TWC as well.
We aren't that far from major cities either... 2 hours from Albany, 1 hour from Binghamton, 4 hours from NYC.
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Yeah I am only 45 minutes from both Rochester and Buffalo but... well you get what you can.
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45 mins? that's huge miles - by close you normally have to be within 10, and probably more like 2 of a 'big' city to get in the sphere.
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I will say that there has been a huge push by local ISPs to get fiber in the ground/air. Our local ISP is putting a lot of money into infrastructure to get 50/50 to rural businesses. They are also offering 30/5 to residential subscribers along the way.
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@Minion-Queen said:
We just finally got 50/5 2 years ago from TWC. That is the best we can get period. We do have the option to get a frontiernet connection but that is like 30/1 or something like that.
But you are actually rural and that is two to four times as fast as AT&T Uverse!
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A local town near us is talking about getting Fiber town funded. So we will have to see what happens there, we are only 10 minutes from there.
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As for the OP, yeah price drops like this are totally normal!
I had a customer who purchased a T1 12 years ago, it was $850/month for internet. 4 years ago the town finally got cable. We upgraded them to 15/3 for around $80/month.
The main thing to watch out for is how well those people take care of their networks? The T1 never had an outage in the 8 years they used it. I'm not supporting them anymore so I don't know if they've had any outages with their cable connection.
That said, I'll beat Scott to the punch where he will tell you he's seen customers who've had a 1 year outage on a T1, so it's all just a game, you just have to pick a place to that appears to fit your needs the best.
Oh, and of course, past experience is not an indicator of future performance.
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@Minion-Queen said:
A local town near us is talking about getting Fiber town funded. So we will have to see what happens there, we are only 10 minutes from there.
Which town?
I'm surprised any town doesn't do this after it has been shown to be so wildly successful over and over again.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Or at least for a big discount.
Sounds like they are already giving a huge discount. The build out cost is $20K, they are only passing along $4K of that.
You'll make that up in 57 months at $79/month vs what you pay now $780/month. Because of the whole time value of money thing, you could ask them to spread the $4000 over the payments for the 5 year term, that only adds $66.67 a month to the bill.
If there is little chance of you moving locations, this sounds like a total win.
