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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller This is true, but weren't a lot of documents originally written in "script" of some form instead of the "print" letters that so many of us love? If we are not going to teach kids to write cursive, at least teach them to read it.

      I get letters from family members every now and again... their print is barely legible, but their cursive is beautiful to look at, lol. (It forces them to slow down and do it right).

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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        @dafyre said:

        @scottalanmiller This is true, but weren't a lot of documents originally written in "script" of some form instead of the "print" letters that so many of us love? If we are not going to teach kids to write cursive, at least teach them to read it.

        Teaching to read it takes littler effort, although I'd argue provides little value. I grew up writing cursive and when I see things written in it I can rarely make out what it says.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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          @dafyre said:

          I get letters from family members every now and again... their print is barely legible, but their cursive is beautiful to look at, lol. (It forces them to slow down and do it right).

          In theory that should work the opposite. The original objective of cursive was to make quick, sloppy writing easier.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            It has two of the core mistakes in schools today: cursive and common core freak math. Two things that have no place in the adult world but take up a huge amount of time in "schools".

            What's funny, there was a meme running around FB last weekend where a teacher wrote the student a note on their homework stating that Cursive was not allowed, and they have been warned twice before, and would now be written up for it.

            I can't tell if I'm comin' or goin' anymore... LOL

            That, for once, is encouraging. Cursive would never be allowed in business. That's craziness.

            I assume you mean a handwritten whatever (other than personal notes) wouldn't be accepted, print or cursive.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller This is true. But you and I (and probably all of us here) know that theory and practice sometimes don't go hand-in-hand, lol.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                It has two of the core mistakes in schools today: cursive and common core freak math. Two things that have no place in the adult world but take up a huge amount of time in "schools".

                What's funny, there was a meme running around FB last weekend where a teacher wrote the student a note on their homework stating that Cursive was not allowed, and they have been warned twice before, and would now be written up for it.

                I can't tell if I'm comin' or goin' anymore... LOL

                That, for once, is encouraging. Cursive would never be allowed in business. That's craziness.

                I assume you mean a handwritten whatever (other than personal notes) wouldn't be accepted, print or cursive.

                Print is needed sometimes, although very rarely now. Hopefully no one is using pens and paper at all in business. But when they do, they should be taking the time to write well and not using cursive.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said:

                  @scottalanmiller This is true. But you and I (and probably all of us here) know that theory and practice sometimes don't go hand-in-hand, lol.

                  Anyone can just choose to be sloppy and unreadable if they want.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Print is needed sometimes, although very rarely now. Hopefully no one is using pens and paper at all in business. But when they do, they should be taking the time to write well and not using cursive.

                    half or more of the woman I work with write everything in cursive. Granted they aren't handing out many notes, messages etc to people, but they take personal notes that sometimes I have to borrow and they are always in cursive.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Print is needed sometimes, although very rarely now. Hopefully no one is using pens and paper at all in business. But when they do, they should be taking the time to write well and not using cursive.

                      half or more of the woman I work with write everything in cursive. Granted they aren't handing out many notes, messages etc to people, but they take personal notes that sometimes I have to borrow and they are always in cursive.

                      Yes, it's a very feminine writing style. In engineering college they forced us to change to 100% printing and modify our letters to be clearer than what they teach in normal school. I know almost no men that write in cursive but lots of women. But none that I can read.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Print is needed sometimes, although very rarely now. Hopefully no one is using pens and paper at all in business. But when they do, they should be taking the time to write well and not using cursive.

                        half or more of the woman I work with write everything in cursive. Granted they aren't handing out many notes, messages etc to people, but they take personal notes that sometimes I have to borrow and they are always in cursive.

                        Yes, it's a very feminine writing style. In engineering college they forced us to change to 100% printing and modify our letters to be clearer than what they teach in normal school. I know almost no men that write in cursive but lots of women. But none that I can read.

                        I would agree with that. Many of my male friends dropped cursive several years before I did.

                        Lucky for me, these woman all write beautifully. Rarely is there a time when I can't read something. In fact the last time I couldn't read it was in print.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Print is needed sometimes, although very rarely now. Hopefully no one is using pens and paper at all in business. But when they do, they should be taking the time to write well and not using cursive.

                          half or more of the woman I work with write everything in cursive. Granted they aren't handing out many notes, messages etc to people, but they take personal notes that sometimes I have to borrow and they are always in cursive.

                          Yes, it's a very feminine writing style. In engineering college they forced us to change to 100% printing and modify our letters to be clearer than what they teach in normal school. I know almost no men that write in cursive but lots of women. But none that I can read.

                          I always remember my engineering teachers and professors writing in block lettering. They argued it was much easier to read then standard print.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            What I tend to see women doing, and what I call "girl writing" because of it, is mixing printing and cursive together into something no one was taught to do which is an absolute mess. Nearly every girl I know does it and many don't even realize when they are printing or writing in cursive and can't solidly do either anymore. My wife is one of them. Only once had a man (and I feel like it was someone here) say that they did the same thing. I see this all of the time.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller Well shoot! I resemble that remark! Now I gotta figure out whether or not to laugh, or be this week's laughing stock of "Next up on Easily Offended", lol.

                              I do tend to write mostly in cursive. But there are some words and letters that just pop out in print because I wrote them so many times that way, lol.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                I write my capital j in cursive style, but I think that mainly has to do with the fact that my first name is Jason, and I personally just like the cursive j better than the print one.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @scottalanmiller Well shoot! I resemble that remark! Now I gotta figure out whether or not to laugh, or be this week's laughing stock of "Next up on Easily Offended", lol.

                                  I do tend to write mostly in cursive. But there are some words and letters that just pop out in print because I wrote them so many times that way, lol.

                                  Maybe you were the person that I was thinking of 🙂

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