Non-IT News Thread
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@scottalanmiller Oh I know she wouldn't have been there. One, she's too old. Two, she's a JW, so she doesn't do clubs. And a good JW, so yeah... still...but my heart breaks for those families...
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Solar Impulse completes historic round-the-world trip
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Blasts heard near Mogadishu airport
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Ship hits wall of Panama Canal renewing design concerns
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Ship hits wall of Panama Canal renewing design concerns
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-36891142I get more clearance in a phone booth than modern ships get in the Panama Canal.
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@tonyshowoff said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
Ship hits wall of Panama Canal renewing design concerns
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-36891142I get more clearance in a phone booth than modern ships get in the Panama Canal.
Yeah, the lengths they have to go through to prevent that are crazy, and I guarantee the ship is much worse off than the wall of the canal.
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This is the new canal just one month old. Ships are three times the size that they were two months ago. They use tugs now instead of the mule trains.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
This is the new canal just one month old. Ships are three times the size that they were two months ago. They use tugs now instead of the mule trains.
That's up and running already? Man, how time flies.
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@travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
This is the new canal just one month old. Ships are three times the size that they were two months ago. They use tugs now instead of the mule trains.
That's up and running already? Man, how time flies.
I know, @pchiodo @MarigabyFrias and I were just checking out the dig site less than a year ago!
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Weren't we talking recently about workers not knowing their rights?
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Weren't we talking recently about workers not knowing their rights?
Yup, it's not going to change. No amount of telling people what their rights are ever gets people who are doing these kinds of jobs to listen.
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When I was sixteen and a job denied us our rights, I called a "union" and we walked out, en masse. One guy fired us, I said okay, see you in court. I wasn't to my car in the parking lot before the owner was outside running after us screaming that we were not fired, were getting full pay and could go home and enjoy ourselves
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Weren't we talking recently about workers not knowing their rights?
Yup, it's not going to change. No amount of telling people what their rights are ever gets people who are doing these kinds of jobs to listen.
It's unfortunate, this is a pretty open and shut case.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Weren't we talking recently about workers not knowing their rights?
Yup, it's not going to change. No amount of telling people what their rights are ever gets people who are doing these kinds of jobs to listen.
It's unfortunate, this is a pretty open and shut case.
Yeah, but on the upside, no one to blame but themselves.
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The girl said she 'didn't know' if she would push legal action or not, but I think it'd be a smart idea on her part. There's absolutely no reason for A) her to be making less than the guy who was hired, and ~B) for them to be fired, even if they were discussing wages.
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
The girl said she 'didn't know' if she would push legal action or not, but I think it'd be a smart idea on her part. There's absolutely no reason for A) her to be making less than the guy who was hired, and ~B) for them to be fired, even if they were discussing wages.
Paying new hires more than previous ones is standard practice in the food service industry. This was institutionalized in the big fast food chains. There are two simple factors here:
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It's simply standard to pay new people more, why I don't know, but it encourages turnover and stops people from becoming entrenched employees. You'd think that you'd want that, but often places do not.
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People negotiate different rates. Even if the value and skill of the employee is the same, it's up to each employee to negotiate the rate that makes sense for them. Taking legal action because someone else is a better negotiator isn't legal. Saying that there was no reason for the pay to be different means she doesn't understand how pay works and indicates why she might make less - because she doesn't understand the process.
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
for them to be fired, even if they were discussing wages.
As long as they are not at work at the time, and didn't get paid lots of money to give up their rights, there should be no grounds for firing people over things that they are legally required to disclose in many situations.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
for them to be fired, even if they were discussing wages.
As long as they are not at work at the time, and didn't get paid lots of money to give up their rights, there should be no grounds for firing people over things that they are legally required to disclose in many situations.
I understood it that they both got hired the same day.
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
for them to be fired, even if they were discussing wages.
As long as they are not at work at the time, and didn't get paid lots of money to give up their rights, there should be no grounds for firing people over things that they are legally required to disclose in many situations.
I understood it that they both got hired the same day.
Yeah, at the same time, and discussed it before even starting.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
for them to be fired, even if they were discussing wages.
As long as they are not at work at the time, and didn't get paid lots of money to give up their rights, there should be no grounds for firing people over things that they are legally required to disclose in many situations.
I understood it that they both got hired the same day.
Yeah, at the same time, and discussed it before even starting.
Then I have a problem with him getting $8.25 and her getting $8, even though they agreed to it. They were both new hires, they both should have started at $8.25.
