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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

      http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

      Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

      So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller @RojoLoco
        last edited by

        @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

        http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

        Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

        So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

        Over/Under is running about 20 bucks so you'd lose any gains in the fees

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
          last edited by

          @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

          Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

          So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

          Small scale is never good nor is holding currency. FX Trading is done at insane scale and very rapidly (many times per day.) The idea of holding any currency or trading through cash exchange channels is a sure loss.

          Holding currency means that you fight inflation and pay massive overheads on the exchange for things that move very little. FX traders work in sub-second trades with big leverage (like 10,000% loans) to get enough volume to make it work.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
            last edited by

            @MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

            http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

            Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

            So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

            Over/Under is running about 20 bucks so you'd lose any gains in the fees

            Exactly. Basically $10,000 is the minimum buy for an FX speculation and the maximum hold is 48 hours. If you try to drop below $10 or hold longer than two days... you are screwed.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @MattSpeller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/fx/g10/british-pound.html

              Sterling Futures are a bit bleak.

              So I should probably refrain from any small scale currency speculation? For a moment, it almost seemed like a good idea to buy a hundred pounds for 136 bucks.

              Over/Under is running about 20 bucks so you'd lose any gains in the fees

              Exactly. Basically $10,000 is the minimum buy for an FX speculation and the maximum hold is 48 hours. If you try to drop below $10 or hold longer than two days... you are screwed.

              Or playing the long con 😉

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                If I was to do casual FX trading at home, I'd likely be working with $100K or more and hopefully trading more than once per hour, for example.

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  If I was to do casual FX trading at home, I'd likely be working with $100K or more and hopefully trading more than once per hour, for example.

                  $100k is not a casual anything.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    I spent most of my 30s as the top FX trade technologist in the game (architecture) running the biggest FX trading organization in the world which had as a client... the US Fed, for example. So this is my bread and butter.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                      last edited by

                      @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      If I was to do casual FX trading at home, I'd likely be working with $100K or more and hopefully trading more than once per hour, for example.

                      $100k is not a casual anything.

                      FX isn't a casual game. FX is go high or go home trading. It's the biggest profits and the biggest risk. You can't play unless you are in it to win it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        FX trading is also the most automated. To get any advantage on FX trading the only option is to hire developers (I can get them for you) and the architecture team (I have them to) and build a low latency trading platform that sits in London physically within about 1km of the main exchange. And you have to be willing to make trades that no human sees - if you take over 20ms to decide on the trade, you lose it. FX offers last well under a second. They are called ticks and you get an offer many times per second. It's literally trillions per day across the currency options. And that is spot pricing alone.

                        So just attempting to trade in it is a major undertaking. You expect to drop several million just to get into the game from a hardware perspective. without it, any "good deal" that you see is gone before it even shows up on your screen.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          If I was to do casual FX trading at home, I'd likely be working with $100K or more and hopefully trading more than once per hour, for example.

                          $100k is not a casual anything.

                          FX isn't a casual game. FX is go high or go home trading. It's the biggest profits and the biggest risk. You can't play unless you are in it to win it.

                          I was joking.... I'd give myself a shotgun tonsillectomy if I ever actually considered any kind of "trading". I'd be far more likely to lick a public toilet seat than to get involved in any of that bullshit.

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                          • momurdaM
                            momurda
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                            Trading is dumb; investing is the way to go. Holding positions for a couple years and only buying worthwhile companies.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @momurda
                              last edited by

                              @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              Trading is dumb; investing is the way to go. Holding positions for a couple years and only buying worthwhile companies.

                              Traders are the ones that make the big money, but it takes work. My mom was a trader later in life and did great. Long term holds are what you do for retirement, trading is what you do to make money.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver
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                                http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/06/attention-us-bound-tourists-social-media-accounts-subject-to-inspection/#p3

                                Insteresting.

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                                • thwrT
                                  thwr @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/06/attention-us-bound-tourists-social-media-accounts-subject-to-inspection/#p3

                                  Insteresting.

                                  Yeah, just saw that here
                                  http://www.golem.de/news/homeland-security-frage-nach-facebook-konto-bei-einreise-in-die-usa-geplant-1606-121769.html

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    Wow - makes me want happy I have my account locked down against searches and makes me want to delete them from my mobile devices before I travel.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      the US has been using social media for vetting for many years. The change here is that they will put it on the forms, not that they will start using it.

                                      Even as a US citizen, people have been warning me not to talk about questionable democratic processes in US partner dictatorships for fear of being denied reentry into the US.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        the US has been using social media for vetting for many years. The change here is that they will put it on the forms, not that they will start using it.

                                        Even as a US citizen, people have been warning me not to talk about questionable democratic processes in US partner dictatorships for fear of being denied reentry into the US.

                                        As a citizen, can you be denied? I suppose you could be, they are the government after all, they can do anything they want - and do so daily.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          As a citizen, can you be denied? I suppose you could be, they are the government after all, they can do anything they want - and do so daily.

                                          I don't believe that you can be currently. But Trump has proposed that citizens lose that right and it has a lot of support.

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            the US has been using social media for vetting for many years. The change here is that they will put it on the forms, not that they will start using it.

                                            Even as a US citizen, people have been warning me not to talk about questionable democratic processes in US partner dictatorships for fear of being denied reentry into the US.

                                            As a citizen, can you be denied? I suppose you could be, they are the government after all, they can do anything they want - and do so daily.

                                            Remember, kids - the government and the police can do anything they damn well please to you at any time. There may be a slight chance you'll get out of it, and an even smaller chance that they may get in trouble for it later, but you still got f@cked over, arrested, denied entry to your native homeland, etc.

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