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[dafyre]

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

I have a vendor who will only use a Linux SCO image INSIDE of Cent OS 5 with ESX running. Is it possible to put CentOS 5 into hyper-V and then within that VM do all of the other stuff to essentially MAKE an SCO image compatible with virtualization?

They put SCO Linux running on what hypervisor, on top of CentOS 5, on top of ESX? That's three ancient systems. None of those are new enough to consider. As bad as it is, having a triple nested system is so bad... it would be something like this...

Application
     |
SCO Linux
     |
VirtualBox
     |
 CentOS 5
     |
   ESX 3
     |
Hyper-V 2016

That's three hypervisors and two operating systems all to run one application.

I thought 3-2-1 was a good thing?!

[wirestyle22]

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

I have a vendor who will only use a Linux SCO image INSIDE of Cent OS 5 with ESX running. Is it possible to put CentOS 5 into hyper-V and then within that VM do all of the other stuff to essentially MAKE an SCO image compatible with virtualization?

They put SCO Linux running on what hypervisor, on top of CentOS 5, on top of ESX? That's three ancient systems. None of those are new enough to consider. As bad as it is, having a triple nested system is so bad... it would be something like this...

Application
     |
SCO Linux
     |
VirtualBox
     |
 CentOS 5
     |
   ESX 3
     |
Hyper-V 2016

That's three hypervisors and two operating systems all to run one application.

The vendor essentially told me he doesn't know what hes doing. Our site was the "first time he's done this". The problem is the city will not move to another piece of software. They will not pay for it. It's so insanely old. We wanted to replicate it in Hyper-V but none of this is compatible.

[scottalanmiller]

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

I have a vendor who will only use a Linux SCO image INSIDE of Cent OS 5 with ESX running. Is it possible to put CentOS 5 into hyper-V and then within that VM do all of the other stuff to essentially MAKE an SCO image compatible with virtualization?

They put SCO Linux running on what hypervisor, on top of CentOS 5, on top of ESX? That's three ancient systems. None of those are new enough to consider. As bad as it is, having a triple nested system is so bad... it would be something like this...

Application
     |
SCO Linux
     |
VirtualBox
     |
 CentOS 5
     |
   ESX 3
     |
Hyper-V 2016

That's three hypervisors and two operating systems all to run one application.

The vendor essentially told me he doesn't know what hes doing. Our site was the "first time he's done this". The problem is the city will not move to another piece of software. They will not pay for it. It's so insanely old. We wanted to replicate it in Hyper-V but none of this is compatible.

I would... just not bother.

[dafyre]

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

I have a vendor who will only use a Linux SCO image INSIDE of Cent OS 5 with ESX running. Is it possible to put CentOS 5 into hyper-V and then within that VM do all of the other stuff to essentially MAKE an SCO image compatible with virtualization?

They put SCO Linux running on what hypervisor, on top of CentOS 5, on top of ESX? That's three ancient systems. None of those are new enough to consider. As bad as it is, having a triple nested system is so bad... it would be something like this...

Application
     |
SCO Linux
     |
VirtualBox
     |
 CentOS 5
     |
   ESX 3
     |
Hyper-V 2016

That's three hypervisors and two operating systems all to run one application.

The vendor essentially told me he doesn't know what hes doing. Our site was the "first time he's done this". The problem is the city will not move to another piece of software. They will not pay for it. It's so insanely old. We wanted to replicate it in Hyper-V but none of this is compatible.

And I was being sarcastic, if it was lost in the translation, lol.

[wirestyle22]

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

I have a vendor who will only use a Linux SCO image INSIDE of Cent OS 5 with ESX running. Is it possible to put CentOS 5 into hyper-V and then within that VM do all of the other stuff to essentially MAKE an SCO image compatible with virtualization?

They put SCO Linux running on what hypervisor, on top of CentOS 5, on top of ESX? That's three ancient systems. None of those are new enough to consider. As bad as it is, having a triple nested system is so bad... it would be something like this...

Application
     |
SCO Linux
     |
VirtualBox
     |
 CentOS 5
     |
   ESX 3
     |
Hyper-V 2016

That's three hypervisors and two operating systems all to run one application.

The vendor essentially told me he doesn't know what hes doing. Our site was the "first time he's done this". The problem is the city will not move to another piece of software. They will not pay for it. It's so insanely old. We wanted to replicate it in Hyper-V but none of this is compatible.

I would... just not bother.

This is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts in IT. You can't force people to make the right choice.

[scottalanmiller]

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

I have a vendor who will only use a Linux SCO image INSIDE of Cent OS 5 with ESX running. Is it possible to put CentOS 5 into hyper-V and then within that VM do all of the other stuff to essentially MAKE an SCO image compatible with virtualization?

They put SCO Linux running on what hypervisor, on top of CentOS 5, on top of ESX? That's three ancient systems. None of those are new enough to consider. As bad as it is, having a triple nested system is so bad... it would be something like this...

Application
     |
SCO Linux
     |
VirtualBox
     |
 CentOS 5
     |
   ESX 3
     |
Hyper-V 2016

That's three hypervisors and two operating systems all to run one application.

The vendor essentially told me he doesn't know what hes doing. Our site was the "first time he's done this". The problem is the city will not move to another piece of software. They will not pay for it. It's so insanely old. We wanted to replicate it in Hyper-V but none of this is compatible.

I would... just not bother.

This is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts in IT. You can't force people to make the right choice.

Nor is it your concern. It should not drive you crazy. Your role is to recommend the best option for the mission statement. Their job is to determine if they agree. That's it. Your concern should end at the recommendation. The moment you care beyond that, you are no longer acting in the IT capacity but as a proxy investor.

[wirestyle22]

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

I have a vendor who will only use a Linux SCO image INSIDE of Cent OS 5 with ESX running. Is it possible to put CentOS 5 into hyper-V and then within that VM do all of the other stuff to essentially MAKE an SCO image compatible with virtualization?

They put SCO Linux running on what hypervisor, on top of CentOS 5, on top of ESX? That's three ancient systems. None of those are new enough to consider. As bad as it is, having a triple nested system is so bad... it would be something like this...

Application
     |
SCO Linux
     |
VirtualBox
     |
 CentOS 5
     |
   ESX 3
     |
Hyper-V 2016

That's three hypervisors and two operating systems all to run one application.

The vendor essentially told me he doesn't know what hes doing. Our site was the "first time he's done this". The problem is the city will not move to another piece of software. They will not pay for it. It's so insanely old. We wanted to replicate it in Hyper-V but none of this is compatible.

I would... just not bother.

This is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts in IT. You can't force people to make the right choice.

Nor is it your concern. It should not drive you crazy. Your role is to recommend the best option for the mission statement. Their job is to determine if they agree. That's it. Your concern should end at the recommendation. The moment you care beyond that, you are no longer acting in the IT capacity but as a proxy investor.

It's hard for me to do my job well but also not care. Seems contradictory.

[nadnerB]

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

I have a vendor who will only use a Linux SCO image INSIDE of Cent OS 5 with ESX running. Is it possible to put CentOS 5 into hyper-V and then within that VM do all of the other stuff to essentially MAKE an SCO image compatible with virtualization?

They put SCO Linux running on what hypervisor, on top of CentOS 5, on top of ESX? That's three ancient systems. None of those are new enough to consider. As bad as it is, having a triple nested system is so bad... it would be something like this...

Application
     |
SCO Linux
     |
VirtualBox
     |
 CentOS 5
     |
   ESX 3
     |
Hyper-V 2016

That's three hypervisors and two operating systems all to run one application.

The vendor essentially told me he doesn't know what hes doing. Our site was the "first time he's done this". The problem is the city will not move to another piece of software. They will not pay for it. It's so insanely old. We wanted to replicate it in Hyper-V but none of this is compatible.

I would... just not bother.

This is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts in IT. You can't force people to make the right choice.

You can lead a horse to water but you're still not allowed to shoot the bastard

[scottalanmiller]

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

I have a vendor who will only use a Linux SCO image INSIDE of Cent OS 5 with ESX running. Is it possible to put CentOS 5 into hyper-V and then within that VM do all of the other stuff to essentially MAKE an SCO image compatible with virtualization?

They put SCO Linux running on what hypervisor, on top of CentOS 5, on top of ESX? That's three ancient systems. None of those are new enough to consider. As bad as it is, having a triple nested system is so bad... it would be something like this...

Application
     |
SCO Linux
     |
VirtualBox
     |
 CentOS 5
     |
   ESX 3
     |
Hyper-V 2016

That's three hypervisors and two operating systems all to run one application.

The vendor essentially told me he doesn't know what hes doing. Our site was the "first time he's done this". The problem is the city will not move to another piece of software. They will not pay for it. It's so insanely old. We wanted to replicate it in Hyper-V but none of this is compatible.

I would... just not bother.

This is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts in IT. You can't force people to make the right choice.

Nor is it your concern. It should not drive you crazy. Your role is to recommend the best option for the mission statement. Their job is to determine if they agree. That's it. Your concern should end at the recommendation. The moment you care beyond that, you are no longer acting in the IT capacity but as a proxy investor.

It's hard for me to do my job well but also not care. Seems contradictory.

It's not. It only seems that way because you are confusing "caring about your job" with "caring about your projected values on the owners". The two are unrelated. Your job ends at following instructions. Caring about your job means only doing what you are told to do. Caring about something else very likely will conflict to some degree with that.

[wirestyle22]

Nooooooo

[hobbit666]

Done nothing today. Don't know why but just one of those days got no motivation in myself.

[scottalanmiller]

Hey, LA is available, that's an improvement.

[scottalanmiller]

We had the Ukrainian doctor come to check out Luciana today.

[dafyre]

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

We had the Ukrainian doctor come to check out Luciana today.

How is she?

[wirestyle22]

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

We had the Ukrainian doctor come to check out Luciana today.

everything okay?

[scottalanmiller]

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

We had the Ukrainian doctor come to check out Luciana today.

everything okay?

Just a really bad cold, it seems. Bad enough that she is having problems sleeping.

[scottalanmiller]

@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

We had the Ukrainian doctor come to check out Luciana today.

How is she?

They just gave her cough medicine and some saline nasal spray. Nothing major. It's just extreme congestion. Sadly, she coughed so much last night that she threw up

[wirestyle22]

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

We had the Ukrainian doctor come to check out Luciana today.

How is she?

They just gave her cough medicine and some saline nasal spray. Nothing major. It's just extreme congestion. Sadly, she coughed so much last night that she threw up

poor kid

[NerdyDad]

@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

We had the Ukrainian doctor come to check out Luciana today.

How is she?

They just gave her cough medicine and some saline nasal spray. Nothing major. It's just extreme congestion. Sadly, she coughed so much last night that she threw up

poor kid

Diddo. It must be tough being a Daughter of SAM.

[dafyre]

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

We had the Ukrainian doctor come to check out Luciana today.

How is she?

They just gave her cough medicine and some saline nasal spray. Nothing major. It's just extreme congestion. Sadly, she coughed so much last night that she threw up

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

We had the Ukrainian doctor come to check out Luciana today.

How is she?

They just gave her cough medicine and some saline nasal spray. Nothing major. It's just extreme congestion. Sadly, she coughed so much last night that she threw up

Hope she gets to feeling better!