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How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
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Totally new to Reddit. Tried to post 2 comments and I get "You are doing that too much". What? Posting to a FORUM SITE?
That has to be the dumbest thing ever implemented. What a joke!!
Rant over.
Reddit is ridiculous. It's hard to follow for conversations, and the posting is terrible. It's just the new Yahoo! Answers.
It is hard to follow!! I figured it would be a cool place to go, but I guess I was wrong.
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@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Not terribly imo. If you're interested in working for the military you might be able to find an Exchange job, but they're getting fewer and further between. I had a SysAdmin job up that was mostly Linux and macOS, and at least half of the applicants were Exchange admins.
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@Kelly said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Not terribly imo. If you're interested in working for the military you might be able to find an Exchange job, but they're getting fewer and further between. I had a SysAdmin job up that was mostly Linux and macOS, and at least half of the applicants were Exchange admins.
That is my train of thought as well. I'm trying to determine an educational path currently
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@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Kelly said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Not terribly imo. If you're interested in working for the military you might be able to find an Exchange job, but they're getting fewer and further between. I had a SysAdmin job up that was mostly Linux and macOS, and at least half of the applicants were Exchange admins.
That is my train of thought as well. I'm trying to determine an educational path currently
If recent experience is any indication, Linux admins are currently in very short supply in the SMB market.
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@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Have you done calculus? As time T increases, the value (V) of Exchange approaches zero.
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@scottalanmiller I was forced to
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@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Kelly said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Not terribly imo. If you're interested in working for the military you might be able to find an Exchange job, but they're getting fewer and further between. I had a SysAdmin job up that was mostly Linux and macOS, and at least half of the applicants were Exchange admins.
That is my train of thought as well. I'm trying to determine an educational path currently
Education is always about preparing the future and avoiding the past. Exchange is a bit of history. Sure, a bit that will last for a decade or more, but so will the surplus of existing, trained, experienced Exchange admins desperate for work.
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@Kelly said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Kelly said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Not terribly imo. If you're interested in working for the military you might be able to find an Exchange job, but they're getting fewer and further between. I had a SysAdmin job up that was mostly Linux and macOS, and at least half of the applicants were Exchange admins.
That is my train of thought as well. I'm trying to determine an educational path currently
If recent experience is any indication, Linux admins are currently in very short supply in the SMB market.
And the SME market. And the hosting market. And the enterprise market.
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Ugh! Made the mistake of putting an install directory in a place where regular users can get to it. What do they do? Yup...install it. Nice going, morons!
2nd rant over
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@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Kelly said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Not terribly imo. If you're interested in working for the military you might be able to find an Exchange job, but they're getting fewer and further between. I had a SysAdmin job up that was mostly Linux and macOS, and at least half of the applicants were Exchange admins.
That is my train of thought as well. I'm trying to determine an educational path currently
Education is always about preparing the future and avoiding the past. Exchange is a bit of history. Sure, a bit that will last for a decade or more, but so will the surplus of existing, trained, experienced Exchange admins desperate for work.
If that is the case I shouldn't study for the job I have but instead should be educating to make myself as marketable as possible. Do you agree that Linux would be the correct path?
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@Son-of-Jor-El said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Ugh! Made the mistake of putting an install directory in a place where regular users can get to it. What do they do? Yup...install it. Nice going, morons!
2nd rant over
If you stand too close to a shit flinging monkey, you get monkey shit on you. But do you blame the monkey for throwing poo? Or is it your fault for standing too close to the monkey?
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@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
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@Kelly said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Not terribly imo. If you're interested in working for the military you might be able to find an Exchange job, but they're getting fewer and further between. I had a SysAdmin job up that was mostly Linux and macOS, and at least half of the applicants were Exchange admins.
That is my train of thought as well. I'm trying to determine an educational path currently
Education is always about preparing the future and avoiding the past. Exchange is a bit of history. Sure, a bit that will last for a decade or more, but so will the surplus of existing, trained, experienced Exchange admins desperate for work.
If that is the case I shouldn't study for the job I have but instead should be educating to make myself as marketable as possible. Do you agree that Linux would be the correct path?
Studying is like dressing. Dress for the job you want, not the job that you have.
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@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Ugh! Made the mistake of putting an install directory in a place where regular users can get to it. What do they do? Yup...install it. Nice going, morons!
2nd rant over
If you stand too close to a shit flinging monkey, you get monkey shit on you. But do you blame the monkey for throwing poo? Or is it your fault for standing too close to the monkey?
You can just not feed the monkey so he won't throw poo at you anymore and still be close LOL
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@scottalanmiller So the next question is, aside from the SAM linu administration guide, what is the best education path? and you know what my personal goal is Scott
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@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
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@Kelly said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Not terribly imo. If you're interested in working for the military you might be able to find an Exchange job, but they're getting fewer and further between. I had a SysAdmin job up that was mostly Linux and macOS, and at least half of the applicants were Exchange admins.
That is my train of thought as well. I'm trying to determine an educational path currently
Education is always about preparing the future and avoiding the past. Exchange is a bit of history. Sure, a bit that will last for a decade or more, but so will the surplus of existing, trained, experienced Exchange admins desperate for work.
If that is the case I shouldn't study for the job I have but instead should be educating to make myself as marketable as possible. Do you agree that Linux would be the correct path?
Linux has two significant advantages for you...
- It's one of the most in demand skills today and is growing currently, not shrinking.
- ML has several high six and low seven figure Linux people in the community to learn from, most communities do not.
So your access to resources is better than a lot of places. That's a big factor.
But the biggest factor in anything is "what job do you want?" Only you can really answer this. Of course you can say things like "I really like standing my a user looking at their desktop and helping them work more efficiently" and we can say "oh, that would be deskside support", but it is you that have to define what your dream role looks like, even if you don't know the name of it.
Is Linux Administration something you are passionate about? Do you like Windows better? Trust me, a passionate Windows Admin earns more and has more spring to his step than an unhappy Linux Admin.
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@Son-of-Jor-El said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Ugh! Made the mistake of putting an install directory in a place where regular users can get to it. What do they do? Yup...install it. Nice going, morons!
2nd rant over
If you stand too close to a shit flinging monkey, you get monkey shit on you. But do you blame the monkey for throwing poo? Or is it your fault for standing too close to the monkey?
You can just not feed the monkey so he won't throw poo at you anymore and still be close LOL
Thinking
Inside the Box: Stand farther from the monkey
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@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
How valuable is an exchange cert going to be generally with everyone moving to hosted solutions?
Not terribly imo. If you're interested in working for the military you might be able to find an Exchange job, but they're getting fewer and further between. I had a SysAdmin job up that was mostly Linux and macOS, and at least half of the applicants were Exchange admins.
That is my train of thought as well. I'm trying to determine an educational path currently
Education is always about preparing the future and avoiding the past. Exchange is a bit of history. Sure, a bit that will last for a decade or more, but so will the surplus of existing, trained, experienced Exchange admins desperate for work.
If that is the case I shouldn't study for the job I have but instead should be educating to make myself as marketable as possible. Do you agree that Linux would be the correct path?
Linux has two significant advantages for you...
- It's one of the most in demand skills today and is growing currently, not shrinking.
- ML has several high six and low seven figure Linux people in the community to learn from, most communities do not.
So your access to resources is better than a lot of places. That's a big factor.
But the biggest factor in anything is "what job do you want?" Only you can really answer this. Of course you can say things like "I really like standing my a user looking at their desktop and helping them work more efficiently" and we can say "oh, that would be deskside support", but it is you that have to define what your dream role looks like, even if you don't know the name of it.
Is Linux Administration something you are passionate about? Do you like Windows better? Trust me, a passionate Windows Admin earns more and has more spring to his step than an unhappy Linux Admin.
I enjoy learning Linux. I don't know if I can say I have ever been actually passionate about any job although I am passionate about learning in general. I don't rely on my jobs to make me happy--that's what my personal life is for. I think "job happiness" comes with a job that I am good at and feeds the critical thinking needs I have if that makes sense. If that were the criteria here I'd leave IT, which as you know I have seriously considered and still am actively debating/searching.
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@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Ugh! Made the mistake of putting an install directory in a place where regular users can get to it. What do they do? Yup...install it. Nice going, morons!
2nd rant over
If you stand too close to a shit flinging monkey, you get monkey shit on you. But do you blame the monkey for throwing poo? Or is it your fault for standing too close to the monkey?
You can just not feed the monkey so he won't throw poo at you anymore and still be close LOL
Thinking
Inside the Box: Stand farther from the monkey
Outside the Box: Starve the MonkeyREALLY outside the box: Entice the monkey to throw it at you.
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@wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@scottalanmiller So the next question is, aside from the SAM linu administration guide, what is the best education path? and you know what my personal goal is Scott
Learning Linux..
- There are some books in addition to the one I am writing here.
- Start with CentOS
- If you are serious about making a huge transition, phase out Windows in your life (temporarily at least) and go to a full Linux desktop / laptop to force yourself to change your mindsets about everything (Linux on the desktop teaches you nothing about Linux, but it might teach you something about perspective.) Use Fedora because it is closer to CentOS 7 and will prepare you for CentOS 8 when it comes.
- Build a Linux testing environment (you have XenServer today, replace it with KVM so that you have exposure to both Linux-ecosystem hypervisors.)
- Replace every Windows system you have with Linux, one at a time.
- Make loads of new Linux systems you don't have with Windows...
- Home web server / intranet
- Home info portal, WordPress
- Home shared data site, MediaWiki
- Home ticketing system, osTicket
- Home NextCloud or similar storage
- Home NFS shares
- Home PBX
- Home media server
- Home chat server (OpenFire, Rocket.Chat, MatterMost)
- Home minecraft server
- Home Jump server
- Home Ansible or Salt (or both) server
- Home backup server
- Home monitoring server (zabbix, zenoss, nagios)
- Home logging server
- Home firewall
- Home repo for faster updates with less bandwidth
- Home web server / intranet
Things like that.
