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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      We also have to 10x problem. A small number of programmers do code at about ten times the speed of the normal, "proficient" programmer. What we need are the 10x people, primarily.

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      • tonyshowoffT
        tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller I guess I am one of those. In the overly quoted Mythical Man Month, it states that most people code more than 200 lines per day. Nowadays people say "well, that's OK because we're also removing inefficient code", but really are they? Anyway, because I obsessively time and measure everything, I code about 2,000 new lines of code per day, not including changed lines. I do get a lot more done than most other programmers I know, in fact, all except one.

        Of course, plenty will say "then it's 2,000 bad lines of code," but if creating 200 lines per day made one better, there wouldn't be so many crappy programmers since most are both crappy and create very little new code.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          @andyw is the only 10xer that I've worked with. We clocked him one time in "productivity" from a loose estimate at doing the work of the SW 30 person team about 1,000 times faster. That was from math, not just a statement. Of course, they were crippled by the mythical man month AND by management that explicitly thought that they were so smart that they weren't affected by it (they actually said that) and yet couldn't explain why they turned out the sloppiest, slowest, least updated product anyone had ever seen.

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            Carnival Boy
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            This is has become more of a dick waving thread than a helping someone new to programming thread.

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            • tonyshowoffT
              tonyshowoff @Carnival Boy
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              @Carnival-Boy said in Best Development Solution For a Development Apprentice Like Myself:

              This is has become more of a dick waving thread than a helping someone new to programming thread.

              Yeah you guys, come on!

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              • tonyshowoffT
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                In all seriousness, I do recommend people read the Mythical Man Month, and managers especially should read it, because it helps with giving a more realistic view of what can be done and how it can be done. I think one of the best points it makes is "9 women can't make a baby in 1 month," i.e. just putting more people on a project won't get it done faster. This is a problem I've run into a lot over the years from managers and business owners.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                  @Carnival-Boy said in Best Development Solution For a Development Apprentice Like Myself:

                  This is has become more of a dick waving thread than a helping someone new to programming thread.

                  Whose is being waved? We've all pointed out that we suck.

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                  • tonyshowoffT
                    tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Best Development Solution For a Development Apprentice Like Myself:

                    @Carnival-Boy said in Best Development Solution For a Development Apprentice Like Myself:

                    This is has become more of a dick waving thread than a helping someone new to programming thread.

                    Whose is being waved? We've all pointed out that we suck.

                    Well not during the waving contest.

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                    • garak0410G
                      garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Best Development Solution For a Development Apprentice Like Myself:

                      @tonyshowoff said in Best Development Solution For a Development Apprentice Like Myself:

                      When it comes to being a good software engineer, programmer, whatever... something I've noticed is that if you did not want to start making programs when you first began using a computer, you are not only not going to be that good at it, but you'll probably actually hate it.

                      I've been saying this for over a decade. Only with the rarest exception have I ever seen anyone happily become a programmer who didn't start doing it on their own before age twelve and often before age ten. It's like foreign language or playing an instrument, if you don't learn it early, you likely will never learn it. Or at least you will struggle and be unhappy.

                      Can't argue with that. And yes, it seems like a foreign language at time. I could be on borrowed time here but I will give myself credit for one thing...if I leave this place, their stability, DR and general "geeK help may decrease. 🙂

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                      • garak0410G
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                        My plan this week...closing my door 1-3 hours a day and getting my "basics" out of the way, which would be Excel and VBA. Master it as much as I can. We are crazy heavy with Excel and VBA and there is no avoiding it.

                        Digressing, last week was just too rough to start this. We installed new IP Cameras, so had to learn the software and how to configure the mobile apps for management to view. Heck, still learning and configuring how we want to record and retain.

                        I tend to look ahead on the big picture but I need to be proficient in this at least. THEN, I'll explore the other options as far as web-based programming. I also have an "elective" study of learning what we have in SharePoint Online since we've had it two years and never used it.

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