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    Security by using .net instead of .com

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    • C
      Carnival Boy
      last edited by

      That's what happens when you have sales people doing training 🙂

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Not for security reasons, I'd be afraid of any company that things this! Security through idiocy is not a thing.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          You are correct, this actually is a security problem rather than a security feature. It makes people unable to identify the real address. It looks like every transaction is a hijack. When everything is a hijack, nothing is. Basically, the site is crying wolf every time.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            Part of my thinks either this person made this up, their manager made this answer up, or the companies IT team figure few would understand the reality, so they gave them a quick simple answer that when most people hear it just gloss over and assume is correct and the conversation moves on.

            Of course, it's only people like us that challenge this.

            I've asked to be shown the companies reasoning/explanation on this changing TLD is more secure.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              They have a weird "moves around" website. Uncomfortable to use.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                Basically, the site is crying wolf every time.

                There are no errors, etc. Just the user noticing the change.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  There are no errors, etc. Just the user noticing the change.

                  Exactly. You train users to look for these kinds of things to know when they are being hijacked. It's a red flag. This trains them to ignore common security training and just accept dangerous things.

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                    technobabble
                    last edited by technobabble

                    Wow...just wow.

                    I don't like sales people much.

                    And where do I have to click to get the redirect?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      If you click on Employee (and probably Customer) on the left, you'll be redirected to the .net site with the logon page.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom
                        last edited by

                        Yeah, I agree with you @Dashrender and @scottalanmiller

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                          technobabble @Dashrender
                          last edited by technobabble

                          @Dashrender Got it. I have actually seen that a lot. They don't call it security per say, they usually justify the .net as the SSL site and the .com is the public facing site. Some think its security by obscurity (or is that absurdity?), others just want to keep things separate.

                          Although SSL on the whole site used to be something everyone avoided, Google has now suggested that all sites use SSL.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                            @technobabble said:

                            Although SSL on the whole site used to be something everyone avoided, Google has now suggested that all sites use SSL.

                            Everyone has been suggesting that now. For a while. To the point where even normal sites with no reason to need security are now recommended to start moving to full SSL. That's why the EFF is working on a free SSL cert authority to make that possible for everyone.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              The reason you want anyone and everyone on the web to have an SSL to to prevent injection attacks, and hopefully some government snooping!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                You don't care much about either of those things most of the time though. Banking, sure. Facebook, of course. Shopping, obviously. But just reading random news or whatever, the things that most of us do most of the time, it doesn't matter so much. If someone injection attacks me while browsing 9Gag or the government knows that I am reading about funny cat memes, doesn't concern too many people.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  If there's no authentication, I suppose - but so many of those site do have authentication now days.

                                  And why would you not care about injection attacks (drive by downloads) ?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    And why would you not care about injection attacks (drive by downloads) ?

                                    Downloads of what? And are we really worried about people attacking from inside the ISP?

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      A sales person being wrong about something technical. I've never seen that before 😉

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