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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      This is your only option. Your OEM license locks that system to that old host.

      I do not believe that he stated the license was OEM.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
        last edited by scottalanmiller

        @JaredBusch said:

        The answer depends on exactly what license you have. If it is an OEM Server 2008 R2 license, then you need to virtualize it on the existing box. It cannot be moved.

        Oh, maybe he didn't.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @thanksajdotcom
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          @thanksaj said:

          HD = High Definition. HDD = hard drive, or hard disk drive more correctly. Come on Scott!

          HDD = Hard Disk Drive
          HD = Hard Drive
          SSD = Solid State Drive

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          • coliverC
            coliver @JaredBusch
            last edited by coliver

            @JaredBusch said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            This is your only option. Your OEM license locks that system to that old host.

            I do not believe that he stated the license was OEM.

            Sorry for the confusion... that was my fault. I brought up the OEM license out of curiosity more then anything else. I don't know if he has the retail or OEM license.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said:

              @thanksaj said:

              HD = High Definition. HDD = hard drive, or hard disk drive more correctly. Come on Scott!

              HDD = Hard Disk Drive
              HD = Hard Drive
              SSD = Solid State Drive

              I'm not gonna argue it any further at this point. Not worth it.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @thanksajdotcom
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                @thanksaj said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @thanksaj said:

                For shame @scottalanmiller ! HDD != HD

                HD = hard drive. That's what I'm talking about as opposed to SSDs.

                HD = High Definition. HDD = hard drive, or hard disk drive more correctly. Come on Scott!

                I think it has more to do with context then the actual abbreviations.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  HDD = Hard Disk Drive
                  HD = Hard Drive
                  SSD = Solid State Drive

                  Indeed that is what the acronyms stand for. HD and HDD are the same physical thing, though. There is no need to state the "disk" and HDD should really never be used as it is just a silly, new term that is redundant.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by scottalanmiller

                    @thanksaj said:

                    I'm not gonna argue it any further at this point. Not worth it.

                    It's important that you understand that HDD is not a useful term. Just because someone was recently confused and made a new term for something that has had a term and an acronym (HD) for 30 years doesn't mean that the new term has a useful place in the industry. HD already covers that base, HDD is just confusing. HDD is not really an industry term. No idea where it came from or why, but it is very recent that anyone has used it and it is just used out of confusion.

                    HD meant hard drive 20+ years before anyone used it for high definition.

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                    • C
                      Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      You have no licensing for restoring or failover. It's a pretty useless license in a disaster recovery scenario.

                      You could simply buy a new OEM licence in the case of a disaster. I don't believe Microsoft would have an issue with this as long as the licence was ordered in a timely manner, but what do I know.

                      With standard licences (without SA) are you allowed to test your DR plan by temporarily restoring to a separate server? And if so, why can't you do the same with OEM?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                        last edited by

                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        You have no licensing for restoring or failover. It's a pretty useless license in a disaster recovery scenario.

                        You could simply buy a new OEM licence in the case of a disaster. I don't believe Microsoft would have an issue with this as long as the licence was ordered in a timely manner, but what do I know.

                        With standard licences (without SA) are you allowed to test your DR plan by temporarily restoring to a separate server? And if so, why can't you do the same with OEM?

                        Oh sure, you could run out and buy another one, but that is a lot of money and takes time.

                        Standard licenses can move between devices, OEM cannot. So there is no reason to test something with OEM that you aren't licensed to do.

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                        • garak0410G
                          garak0410
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                          I just checked the key on the server...it shows the following:

                          Windows Server 08 R2 Std. 1-4 CPU 5 CLT
                          Physical Key
                          Virtual Key

                          No indication of OEM on this sticker...

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                          • C
                            Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Standard licenses can move between devices, OEM cannot. So there is no reason to test something with OEM that you aren't licensed to do.

                            Standard licenses can move but there are restrictions. Like only once in 90 days? If your server failed, you couldn't temporarily move your OS to another server whilst it was being repaired and then move it back again? Or could you?

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                            • garak0410G
                              garak0410 @garak0410
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                              @garak0410 said:

                              I just checked the key on the server...it shows the following:

                              Windows Server 08 R2 Std. 1-4 CPU 5 CLT
                              Physical Key
                              Virtual Key

                              No indication of OEM on this sticker...

                              Dell verified this is OEM but didn't verify if I can use that "virtual key" to turn this into a 2008R2 Hyper-V host and use the virtual key for a single Virtual VM (which will be our SQL Server eventually).

                              Regardless, will now look at setting up a RAID drive setup when I go to upgrade the drive. I've just been using the free Macrium Reflect image maker. It has worked for us in everything I do...should I use something more robust?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                                @garak0410 said:

                                Dell verified this is OEM but didn't verify if I can use that "virtual key" to turn this into a 2008R2 Hyper-V host and use the virtual key for a single Virtual VM (which will be our SQL Server eventually).

                                That's not for Dell to verify. That's none of their business and there is no question on that. Server OEM can be virtualized. It's not a question.

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