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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @garak0410
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      @garak0410 said:

      Again, honest ignorance...thought I needed Visual Studio to aid in web/browser based internal applications...

      It sounds like circular reasoning. We chose VS because we chose VS. You are an all MS shop because you chose all MS.

      I would step back and look at actual needs. Likely you are tying yourself to an expensive ship without reason.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Once you go to web apps, one of the key value propositions is that you are no longer tied to any platform. You are free. You can keep using MS everywhere, but you don't have to. You can lower your dependence on things that get you audited. You don't need a CAL for every user of applications that you write yourself. You can lower cost, improve reliability and flexibility.

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Once you go to web apps, one of the key value propositions is that you are no longer tied to any platform. You are free. You can keep using MS everywhere, but you don't have to. You can lower your dependence on things that get you audited. You don't need a CAL for every user of applications that you write yourself. You can lower cost, improve reliability and flexibility.

          Good advice...I've always been intimidated by the development side of this job...going on 4 years here and while I have their absolute confidence and trust (and nice raises and bonuses), the time will come to really start producing here. And I'll just get down to basics...we are Excel heavy and may always be...I need to quit putting the horse behind the cart and just focus on where we are now. Excel, VBA and SQL. Get proficient on those things and then learn other dev skills so we can move to more robust platforms in the future...

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            You have Excel as a SQL front end, I am guessing?

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              You have Excel as a SQL front end, I am guessing?

              Yes...on many of our spreadsheets...primarily, SQL is used for Dynamics Great Plains 2010. Secondary, it holds parts for our manufacturing program and also contact information for our estimates and sales. With the latter all being Excel front ends.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                I would look at the possibility of anything new going to PostgreSQL and only use MS SQL Server when you have to. Yes that's two things to maintain but the cost savings might be big over time.

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                • garak0410G
                  garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  I would look at the possibility of anything new going to PostgreSQL and only use MS SQL Server when you have to. Yes that's two things to maintain but the cost savings might be big over time.

                  Adding to list...my goal is to make 2014 the "year of development" (why does that make me think of the movie, 2010: The Year We Make Contact... :bowtie: )...going to try to close out 2014 of all lingering "admin" issues and then just maintain those "admin" issues and gear toward development. And hitting the books too...no gaming! (like I get to anyway!)

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Look at Python as a general purpose language going forward. Super flexible, easy to use and can run on anything.

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                    • Reid CooperR
                      Reid Cooper
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                      Python is almost always a good option.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Finally around to downloading this now 🙂

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                          Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          I would look at the possibility of anything new going to PostgreSQL and only use MS SQL Server when you have to. Yes that's two things to maintain but the cost savings might be big over time.

                          I'm definitely a one database guy. And that one database is MS SQL Server. I did start using MySQL for a while, but life was too short to learn two database systems.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            I use PostgreSQL, MySQL, Redis, MongoDB, Sybase, MS SQL Server, MariaDB, Oracle, SQLite or whatever fits the need at the time. Those are the ones that I used most of the time, though. But with so many new ones coming out now, using different databases for different things is more and more common.

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