Lumia Icon reportedly retired by Verizon
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The whole Nokia line is suffering. Microsoft is not happy with how it is selling.
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We have an Icon that our President requested. I was pleasantly surprised at how easy to use the Windows Phone OS was. Our Director of Sales is now requesting one when he is due. I hope they replace it with something as nice as the Icon.
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A podcast that I've recently started listening to was talking about several fairly inexpensive non contract Windows phones. They were in the $120-$170 range. I was thinking about getting one to try it out.
Though I am wondering if it's even worth it - it could be like the buying BetaMax, or LDs.
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@Dashrender said:
Though I am wondering if it's even worth it - it could be like the buying BetaMax, or LDs.
I wonder the same thing... although I couldn't argue that with our President. The new Windows 10 platform may breath new life into the Windows Phone ecosystem but overall I don't see an advantage to it over something like Android. The only thing I can think is if they offer better infrastructure integration and control through AD.
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I've heard a lot of people mention AD and I can sort of see where that could be good but in general, I want to know how people are envisioning AD integrating with a mobile "single user" device.
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@scottalanmiller I think the biggest thing that AD integration would do is mobile device management. If we could setup and deploy mobile group policies to these devises from the same pane as normal group policies that could be a killer feature.
I know there are a number of MDM solutions out there that offer this style of management but having it integrated with your current system would be that much simpler.
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I just posted a new thread for discussing just this.
MDM makes sense, but I wonder if AD would make that better or worse given that it is built for something very different.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I've heard a lot of people mention AD and I can sort of see where that could be good but in general, I want to know how people are envisioning AD integrating with a mobile "single user" device.
This is the second time you've mentioned the single user thing. Most companies from my experience don't share end user devices (specifically desktops and laptops). So why would this be any different from that?
Just because you CAN log into another computer using your AD credentials, why does that mean it has to extend to every end user device?
Instead of looking at it that way - the question I'd ask is, if you do connect the device to your offices's AD, how do I keep the office out of my personal business? This is assuming that most users would be providing their own device and not one provided by the company.
From what you other ML'ers see in the real world - which is more common, end user provides the phone, or the company? If the end user provides it, are they basically allowed to do whatever they want with it while connected to corporate resources, or is it locked down, no app installs, etc?
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@Dashrender said:
From what you other ML'ers see in the real world - which is more common, end user provides the phone, or the company? If the end user provides it, are they basically allowed to do whatever they want with it while connected to corporate resources, or is it locked down, no app installs, etc?
We provide our users with phones. The understanding being that it is a company device and should only be used for work purposes... however there are no polices (much to my chagrin) or enforcement to ensure this happens. In reality these devices are used for personal tasks as often (or more often) as they are for business tasks.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
From what you other ML'ers see in the real world - which is more common, end user provides the phone, or the company? If the end user provides it, are they basically allowed to do whatever they want with it while connected to corporate resources, or is it locked down, no app installs, etc?
We provide our users with phones. The understanding being that it is a company device and should only be used for work purposes... however there are no polices (much to my chagrin) or enforcement to ensure this happens. In reality these devices are used for personal tasks as often (or more often) as they are for business tasks.
This is not on you, but to expect anything less would be crazy. Might I ask, why does the company provide devices? Perhaps a per diem would actually be better?
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@Dashrender I agree with that. I think it is one of our "perks" when hiring new CS or sales people. It is kind of expected at least in our industry that we provide these users with a device.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender I agree with that. I think it is one of our "perks" when hiring new CS or sales people. It is kind of expected at least in our industry that we provide these users with a device.
Which industry is that?
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@Dashrender Sports manufacturing which is a market unto itself apparently.
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@Dashrender said:
A podcast that I've recently started listening to was talking about several fairly inexpensive non contract Windows phones. They were in the $120-$170 range. I was thinking about getting one to try it out.
Though I am wondering if it's even worth it - it could be like the buying BetaMax, or LDs.
I have the Betamax feeling here lately. The OS has matured quite nicely and I love using it. That said, I don't want to be stuck high and dry but I also, preference wise, do not want Android again and would hold my nose and go with iOS. (that wasn't a slam but a preference.)
The ICON is super smooth, even with Windows 8.1 Update 1, takes amazing pictures and is overall one of the best Windows Phones. This retirement is either due to slow sales, a new flagship coming or both. I am sure it will be clarified over the next few days.
We are about 1./2 iPhone and 1/2 Windows Phone here and both sides are quite happy.
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I had a Nokia Lumia 920.. It took great pictures that was about it. It was nice that it was streamlined. The browsers was lacking (only allowed 4-5 tabs) MS did not allow third-party browsers to be made. The apps are lack and most of them are just html wrappers (so an app the loaded the IE frameworks and made it 'hidden' to the user.
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@Dashrender Just get one that has an SD card slot. Then you can use it as a media device if you don't use at as a phone. It is cheaper than an iPod Touch.
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@Kelly said:
@Dashrender Just get one that has an SD card slot. Then you can use it as a media device if you don't use at as a phone. It is cheaper than an iPod Touch.
That's an idea - though, like Apple, I thought most of them were going away from memory cards and removable batteries?
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@Dashrender Both the 530 and 630 support up to 128 GB SD cards. I don't know about the 735 though. It may as well.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
I had a Nokia Lumia 920.. It took great pictures that was about it. It was nice that it was streamlined. The browsers was lacking (only allowed 4-5 tabs) MS did not allow third-party browsers to be made. The apps are lack and most of them are just html wrappers (so an app the loaded the IE frameworks and made it 'hidden' to the user.
The browser now has unlimited tabs (at least I've seen mine have as many as 12.)...apps are getting better but they still do seem like the distant cousins of the other apps.
I'll hold on to my ICON as long as I can...fingers crossed they will get another flagship...the HTC One M8's camera is what would keep me from it.
