How to Close Skype
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@scottalanmiller said:
This is from Windows 7 but here is Microsoft's documentation:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/working-with-windows#1TC=windows-7
Nothing in that documentation states that the button is designed exit the application. It is a button to close the window. Skype's window DOES close when you click it. This is not directly related to quitting the application.
Yes some software can combine that by putting a hook in the window close form to exit the application entirely, but that is and always has been optional.
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@JaredBusch said:
Nothing in that documentation states that the button is designed exit the application. It is a button to close the window. Skype's window DOES close when you click it. This is not directly related to quitting the application.
Mine does NOT close. What did you do to make yours close?
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The window closes for you? as in does not show up on the main part of the start bar? For me it never leaves the start bar, and I'm not talking about the little icon next to the clock. If it disappeared to a small icon by the clock as Carnival Boy suggests (and tons of programs do do this) I would be happy, because, yes I know I can right click the small icon and close Skype.. but I don't want the large icon on the left side of the start bar with the rest of my running apps - it just doesn't need to be that intrusive.
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@JaredBusch said:
Yes some software can combine that by putting a hook in the window close form to exit the application entirely, but that is and always has been optional.
It's default. To make it close you have to override Microsoft's supplied behaviour.
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@Dashrender said:
The window closes for you? as in does not show up on the main part of the start bar? For me it never leaves the start bar, and I'm not talking about the little icon next to the clock. If it disappeared to a small icon by the clock as Carnival Boy suggests (and tons of programs do do this) I would be happy, because, yes I know I can right click the small icon and close Skype.. but I don't want the large icon on the left side of the start bar with the rest of my running apps - it just doesn't need to be that intrusive.
Exactly. That is how Skype and the "close" button work for me. They literally took "Close" and linked it to "Minimize" as some kind of joke. It literally feels like they are mocking the users.
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@scottalanmiller said:
It's default. To make it close you have to override Microsoft's supplied behaviour.
You are incorrect.. It is not default. Shall I open Visual studio and prove it? I have designed more than one Windows desktop application.
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@JaredBusch said:
You are incorrect.. It is not default. Shall I open Visual studio and prove it? I have designed more than one Windows desktop application.
I thought that in VS it had an exit code wired up to it on default. Is that no longer true? Was it true before and removed?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
You are incorrect.. It is not default. Shall I open Visual studio and prove it? I have designed more than one Windows desktop application.
I thought that in VS it had an exit code wired up to it on default. Is that no longer true? Was it true before and removed?
So did the default change, or is there simply no code there any more?
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As Joe and I were just sitting here discussing it, it seems a large number of communications apps behave that way. Is it that hard to right-click the icon in the tray and hit close? It's always worked for me.
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It's not that I can't right click the icon in the task tray - it's WHY does the large icon need to stay in my face like Word/Excel/Outlook/Chrome, etc? Skype used to 'close' to the task tray, now it takes up space in both.
I think most people realize that it's a program that is designed to have a continuously running process waiting for incoming calls, but it doesn't need to be 'fully launched' to do that.
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@art_of_shred said:
As Joe and I were just sitting here discussing it, it seems a large number of communications apps behave that way. Is it that hard to right-click the icon in the tray and hit close? It's always worked for me.
I do that and Skype doesn't close for me. I'm honestly unaware of how to close to Skype without digging through menus or killing it through the task manager.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
You are incorrect.. It is not default. Shall I open Visual studio and prove it? I have designed more than one Windows desktop application.
I thought that in VS it had an exit code wired up to it on default. Is that no longer true? Was it true before and removed?
If you do not put any code into the function, the window closes and nothing else happens. the application will continue running. That is the default behavior as far back as I can remember. I have been doing application development professionally since 2006 (only part time now as I mostly do systems now).
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@Dashrender said:
I think most people realize that it's a program that is designed to have a continuously running process waiting for incoming calls, but it doesn't need to be 'fully launched' to do that.
Problem for me is that I don't want it to behave that way. It is not and never has been my phone. It is only ever a momentary "open it to connect with someone I've arranged to talk to" software. I know of almost no one who uses it and wants it to stay on. I know some people do, but lots don't. It's not like normal communications software that you pretty much only run and want running continuously. It's "addendum" communications software that you turn on just for a special purpose.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@art_of_shred said:
As Joe and I were just sitting here discussing it, it seems a large number of communications apps behave that way. Is it that hard to right-click the icon in the tray and hit close? It's always worked for me.
I do that and Skype doesn't close for me. I'm honestly unaware of how to close to Skype without digging through menus or killing it through the task manager.
Here is the setting. I likely changed mine ages ago when I installed skype. No idea if it asked me, but it likely did the first time i clicked close, because I doubt I would have went into these settings myself.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I think most people realize that it's a program that is designed to have a continuously running process waiting for incoming calls, but it doesn't need to be 'fully launched' to do that.
I know of almost no one who uses it and wants it to stay on. I know some people do, but lots don't. It's not like normal communications software that you pretty much only run and want running continuously. It's "addendum" communications software that you turn on just for a special purpose.
I never close it, and never want it to. Infact, Generally I run two instances of it. I have a personal Skype account and one for business use. It was what I use for the main form of communication to coworkers as it works better than Lync for Office 365 in my opinion. I use it as a central communications application throughout every day.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I think most people realize that it's a program that is designed to have a continuously running process waiting for incoming calls, but it doesn't need to be 'fully launched' to do that.
Problem for me is that I don't want it to behave that way. It is not and never has been my phone. It is only ever a momentary "open it to connect with someone I've arranged to talk to" software. I know of almost no one who uses it and wants it to stay on. I know some people do, but lots don't. It's not like normal communications software that you pretty much only run and want running continuously. It's "addendum" communications software that you turn on just for a special purpose.
Well Scott, you're not going to get that. Skype has never worked that way - it's always since say day 'closed' to the task try. It's more like a chat program in this manner, and that personally I don't disagree with. But making it stay front and center on the main running programs portion of the start bar is what I don't undestand. UNLESS users were complaining so much that they just couldn't find the icon in the task tray so they could launch it again quickly when they needed, I suppose that's possible.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@art_of_shred said:
As Joe and I were just sitting here discussing it, it seems a large number of communications apps behave that way. Is it that hard to right-click the icon in the tray and hit close? It's always worked for me.
I do that and Skype doesn't close for me. I'm honestly unaware of how to close to Skype without digging through menus or killing it through the task manager.
Here is the setting. I likely changed mine ages ago when I installed skype. No idea if it asked me, but it likely did the first time i clicked close, because I doubt I would have went into these settings myself.
I've installed recently (because I need it when I want to talk to @FiyaFly) and it did not ask me anything.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@art_of_shred said:
As Joe and I were just sitting here discussing it, it seems a large number of communications apps behave that way. Is it that hard to right-click the icon in the tray and hit close? It's always worked for me.
I do that and Skype doesn't close for me. I'm honestly unaware of how to close to Skype without digging through menus or killing it through the task manager.
Here is the setting. I likely changed mine ages ago when I installed skype. No idea if it asked me, but it likely did the first time i clicked close, because I doubt I would have went into these settings myself.
I've installed recently (because I need it when I want to talk to @FiyaFly) and it did not ask me anything.
Same here.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Problem for me is that I don't want it to behave that way. It is not and never has been my phone. It is only ever a momentary "open it to connect with someone I've arranged to talk to" software. I know of almost no one who uses it and wants it to stay on. I know some people do, but lots don't. It's not like normal communications software that you pretty much only run and want running continuously. It's "addendum" communications software that you turn on just for a special purpose.
Unless you actually know most people who whose Skype, do not assume that "lots". is any significant portion of the Skype user base.
The people you know and the people I know are different then because of the 15 people in my contact list they almost always have Skype on for ease of communication.
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@JaredBusch said:
The people you know and the people I know are different then because of the 15 people in my contact list they almost always have Skype on for ease of communication.
I have 15 in mine as well. 4 are offline, but on with different accounts, 3 are marked 'away'. And that is my business account. Don't get me started on personal.
