Windows Print to PDF recommendations
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@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
plus, I would be very surprised if it didn't try to take over docx, xlsx, etc.
Your Jared is showing again.
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@VoIP_n00b said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@JasGot FREE only for non-commercial use
What's your point? (That wasn't already stated clearly in my post?)
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Replying to myself. Foxit 9 includes pritpdf for free, Foxit 10 does not, which is why my other I-T person hasn't deployed 10 yet.
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@jt1001001 said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
Replying to myself. Foxit 9 includes pritpdf for free, Foxit 10 does not, which is why my other I-T person hasn't deployed 10 yet.
Is 9 still getting updates? fixes?
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It was but updates I think stopped 2 months ago. Putting in plans to update to 10
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@VoIP_n00b said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
management has said hell no to Libre Office for replacing MS Office
I have yet to see a business using Libre Office.
We used it at CW because of all the RHEL workstations. They had some pretty huge spreadsheets for thermal analysis in libre office.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@VoIP_n00b said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
management has said hell no to Libre Office for replacing MS Office
I have yet to see a business using Libre Office.
I think a greenfield setup could go that direction pretty easily - as long as they aren't receiving a ton of MS based documents that wind up with formatting issues.
In my case we have 100's or more Word and Excel files, the Word files all would have had to been updated to be formatted correctly - no thanks.
and for us, we're on the verge of moving to O365, so our need for local Office is hopefully short lived except for a few corporate type jobs (accounting). Everyone else should easily be able to use the online versions of Word/Excel.And isn't that the case for most? How many people today really need a locally installed version of office? 1%? 5%? I know I can do 99.9% of my things in Excel online (I have started using pivot tables a lot - I guess I should check that).
Additionally - I've really taken to the thinking that office documents should RARELY be shared between companies. Most of them should be output to a PDF and sent that way. It frustrates me to no end when vendors send invoices in docx format or xlsx format. - Come on guys... I can edit these files and send them back and you might not even see my changes for that invoice - just WTF?
You can edit most pdfs also unless they flatten them. That aspect doesn't really change much.
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@stacksofplates said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@VoIP_n00b said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
management has said hell no to Libre Office for replacing MS Office
I have yet to see a business using Libre Office.
I think a greenfield setup could go that direction pretty easily - as long as they aren't receiving a ton of MS based documents that wind up with formatting issues.
In my case we have 100's or more Word and Excel files, the Word files all would have had to been updated to be formatted correctly - no thanks.
and for us, we're on the verge of moving to O365, so our need for local Office is hopefully short lived except for a few corporate type jobs (accounting). Everyone else should easily be able to use the online versions of Word/Excel.And isn't that the case for most? How many people today really need a locally installed version of office? 1%? 5%? I know I can do 99.9% of my things in Excel online (I have started using pivot tables a lot - I guess I should check that).
Additionally - I've really taken to the thinking that office documents should RARELY be shared between companies. Most of them should be output to a PDF and sent that way. It frustrates me to no end when vendors send invoices in docx format or xlsx format. - Come on guys... I can edit these files and send them back and you might not even see my changes for that invoice - just WTF?
You can edit most pdfs also unless they flatten them. That aspect doesn't really change much.
Of course this is true, but normals, even normal office workers don't know that.
you can often even "edit" them in Word, by importing them, edit then save as PDF, but it's highly likely you'll break the formatting.But more to your point - I suppose we need a more indelible solution that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
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@VoIP_n00b said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
management has said hell no to Libre Office for replacing MS Office
I have yet to see a business using Libre Office.
Half the users at the site I am at run Linux Mint with Libre Office.
The other half are Mac.
The only Windows machines are the users that are waiting for their Macs
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@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@stacksofplates said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@VoIP_n00b said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
management has said hell no to Libre Office for replacing MS Office
I have yet to see a business using Libre Office.
I think a greenfield setup could go that direction pretty easily - as long as they aren't receiving a ton of MS based documents that wind up with formatting issues.
In my case we have 100's or more Word and Excel files, the Word files all would have had to been updated to be formatted correctly - no thanks.
and for us, we're on the verge of moving to O365, so our need for local Office is hopefully short lived except for a few corporate type jobs (accounting). Everyone else should easily be able to use the online versions of Word/Excel.And isn't that the case for most? How many people today really need a locally installed version of office? 1%? 5%? I know I can do 99.9% of my things in Excel online (I have started using pivot tables a lot - I guess I should check that).
Additionally - I've really taken to the thinking that office documents should RARELY be shared between companies. Most of them should be output to a PDF and sent that way. It frustrates me to no end when vendors send invoices in docx format or xlsx format. - Come on guys... I can edit these files and send them back and you might not even see my changes for that invoice - just WTF?
You can edit most pdfs also unless they flatten them. That aspect doesn't really change much.
Of course this is true, but normals, even normal office workers don't know that.
you can often even "edit" them in Word, by importing them, edit then save as PDF, but it's highly likely you'll break the formatting.But more to your point - I suppose we need a more indelible solution that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Normals wouldn't edit the spreadsheet either. The point still stands.
You can make spreadsheets read only and only editable by who you want.
It's kind of moot though. Changing the numbers on an invoice doesn't really do anything. Their billing system has the actual invoice and the email has the original invoice. It would be fairly evident if you tampered with it.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@DustinB3403 said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
Libre office works well to, especially if you have additional needs besides just appending.
LOL - no chance in hell I'm deploying Libre Office just for this.
Why rule out a good tool just because it does more than you need?
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@DustinB3403 said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@DustinB3403 said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
Libre office works well to, especially if you have additional needs besides just appending.
LOL - no chance in hell I'm deploying Libre Office just for this.
and management has said hell no to Libre Office for replacing MS Office
Who said anything as a replacement for MS Office?
You said you wanted to tool to append PDF pages together, I mentioned a tool that works well for that purpose.
Exactly.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@DustinB3403 said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@DustinB3403 said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
Libre office works well to, especially if you have additional needs besides just appending.
LOL - no chance in hell I'm deploying Libre Office just for this.
and management has said hell no to Libre Office for replacing MS Office
Who said anything as a replacement for MS Office?
You said you wanted to tool to append PDF pages together, I mentioned a tool that works well for that purpose.
Yeah - I went all JB on ya.. my bad..
none the less, I'm not going to install a massive package like Libre just for print to PDF - plus, I would be very surprised if it didn't try to take over docx, xlsx, etc.... just don't need want that hassle.
It doesn't. Youre hatred of LibreOffice is coming through. You aren't making rational excuses to avoid it. That said, it might not be the right tool for your PDF editing. But your logic for avoiding it is totally wrong.
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@VoIP_n00b said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
@Dashrender said in Windows Print to PDF recommendations:
management has said hell no to Libre Office for replacing MS Office
I have yet to see a business using Libre Office.
Wow. How few businesses can you interact with? Damn. It's freaking everywhere!
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I usually save as PDF in Office or use CutePDF as it works well and small footprint.
