Zoom meeting access:
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Are you on X or Wayland?
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
@Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::
I literally have no idea what you are talking about scott.
Well we established that that isn't showing up for everyone. So the guess is that you set something up special to allow that to happen since it doesn't work on Firefox, Chrome, or Edge on Linux or Windows by default.
Default was EXACTLY what it was, in every example. Fresh OS installs. Fresh browser installs if it wasn't on as part of the OS (Google Chrome) . I thought that was clear... I set absoluty nothing up, this was all truly default. I even tried after OS updates from the default installs, and still got the same results. Just too much to post.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
@Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::
Again, successful zoom test from web browser in ALL major OSs around here, and Chrome, FF, Edge. All 100% working, not at all as you describe. I'm not sure what you are doing to your devices, or if you are editing the screenshots to remove what everyone else sees to prove a point, I'd assume not, but it seems like you are the only one having this issue. This is the standard practice in the company I work for and it works across all devices, Win10, Mac, Linux for all users ~10k.
And AGAIN... I bet you have Zoom installed or set up in some way to allow it. Do a FRESH install, don't test with a machine where you've already installed it.
Obviously you aren't testing in a clean environment.
You have something faked here to make it look like this is the default. These days, almost everyone has already set up Zoom so yeah, it might give you that option. But it doesn't when we tested on clean builds. So stop faking the test and stop calling people liars. Do a clean build, don't install anything, and ta da, you'll see it not support a browser without additional effort of some sort.
I can do a screen recording of the shit. I literally installed the OS, opened up the web browser, then went to a zoom meeting. Zoom was not installed. I have in one of the screenshot it is promoting to install, but still shows the use in browser link. Literally zero done other than installing default OS, and opening the default browser. Nothing. At. All. If you are truly not convinced and not just trolling me, I will record it.
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@Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::
@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
@Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::
I literally have no idea what you are talking about scott.
Well we established that that isn't showing up for everyone. So the guess is that you set something up special to allow that to happen since it doesn't work on Firefox, Chrome, or Edge on Linux or Windows by default.
Default was EXACTLY what it was, in every example. Fresh OS installs. Fresh browser installs if it wasn't on as part of the OS (Google Chrome) . I thought that was clear... I set absoluty nothing up, this was all truly default. I even tried after OS updates from the default installs, and still got the same results. Just too much to post.
Really? What the fuck is different? I've tried on multiple machines, multiple OSes, it never gives that option. It even says in the Zoom docs that it's not an option by default. So what you are seeing is not "normal" according to them.
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I have a thought, here is the meeting I'm testing...
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/7307533530
I have a feeling that the ability to use a web browser might be a "paid for" feature that is based on the customer, not on the end user? I get Zoom meeting invites all the time, and never have I been given a browser option.
But maybe you have someone generating Zoom invites who is paying for or setting that up as an option?
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so I'm hit or miss whether it works or not. The link is there @scottalanmiller but it's got a
display: none;attribute and I'm not sure what causes it to display or not display. I'm going to see if I can figure that out.
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@stacksofplates said in Zoom meeting access::
so I'm hit or miss whether it works or not. The link is there @scottalanmiller but it's got a
display: none;attribute and I'm not sure what causes it to display or not display. I'm going to see if I can figure that out.Weird, WTF.
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Here is someone in another country, on macOS...
Looks like it tries, maybe, but it never loads. It always just says Launching and offers to have you download.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
I have a thought, here is the meeting I'm testing...
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/7307533530
I have a feeling that the ability to use a web browser might be a "paid for" feature that is based on the customer, not on the end user? I get Zoom meeting invites all the time, and never have I been given a browser option.
But maybe you have someone generating Zoom invites who is paying for or setting that up as an option?
I'll give that a try later and let you know. I still have the default tests available, but I'm not at the computer atm.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
Here is someone in another country, on macOS...
Looks like it tries, maybe, but it never loads. It always just says Launching and offers to have you download.
Click the "click here" link.
This will appear.
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@black3dynamite said in Zoom meeting access::
@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
Here is someone in another country, on macOS...
Looks like it tries, maybe, but it never loads. It always just says Launching and offers to have you download.
Click the "click here" link.
This will appear.
I get there, but it never, for me, shows that additional link.
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Fedora 31 Workstation (GNOME3)
Google Chrome
Zoom Meeting app already installed.
Already signed in on zoom.us with my personal account.
Zoom URL: https://us04web.zoom.us/j/7307533530
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@black3dynamite said in Zoom meeting access::
Already signed in on zoom.us with my personal account.
That might change it. I don't have a Zoom account, I use anonymously like, I assume, most people. Since I'm only a Zoom end user, not using an account, I'm not signed in. No reason to be.
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So I've been curious. There is a hidden field that sometimes shows up and sometimes doesn't. It's:
<input type="hidden" id="show_wclink_direct">The js script at the bottom of the page is looking for that.
var wcLink = $(".webclient"); if ($('#show_wclink_direct').length > 0 && wcLink.length > 0) { wcLink.show(); }However sometimes that show_wclink_direct id never shows up in the webpage so it doesn't apply that show method.
That's all I've got so far, but I'm curious as to what's going on.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
@black3dynamite said in Zoom meeting access::
Already signed in on zoom.us with my personal account.
That might change it. I don't have a Zoom account, I use anonymously like, I assume, most people. Since I'm only a Zoom end user, not using an account, I'm not signed in. No reason to be.
How do you join a meeting without signing up? There's no option to do that. Once you click the view in the browser link it makes you sign in.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
I have a thought, here is the meeting I'm testing...
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/7307533530
I have a feeling that the ability to use a web browser might be a "paid for" feature that is based on the customer, not on the end user? I get Zoom meeting invites all the time, and never have I been given a browser option.
But maybe you have someone generating Zoom invites who is paying for or setting that up as an option?
Okay, so. From a fresh install of Fedora Workstation (but updated via
dnf update) and default install of Firefox:
Then from the meeting url you posted @scottalanmiller:
The results were exactly the same in the fresh installs of Windows 10 and Ubuntu, default Edge and Firefox.
This tells me the meeting settings (or meeting itself) somehow disables the usage via web browser feature.
EDIT:
Google Chrome in a fresh Windows 10 install does give the option, but not in Fedora:
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Perhaps on your meeting, you disabled the ability?
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@Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::
This tells me the meeting settings (or meeting itself) somehow disables the usage via web browser feature.
Bizarre, but that would make sense from what we are seeing. What's odd is that no matter where I get the Zoom invite from, I've never gotten one that offered the web option - and I look every time because I absolutely hate these stupid apps. Zoom has the best app, but I still just want to run in the browser. WebEx and others don't even work, so the gap is pretty big between Zoom and the crappy wanna-bes.
I wonder if it is a paid-for feature perhaps.
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@Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::
Perhaps on your meeting, you disabled the ability?
Doesn't seem likely as I don't have any settings. But you can see the line ABOVE the one you highlight shows the problem - only people with Zoom accounts (but that's free) AND signed in get the option. I'm guessing that you've been signing in in some way. I don't have a Zoom account, and would never, ever have thought that there'd be a reason for one, so it never crossed my mind to make one and nothing in the Zoom meeting joining process does it make it feel like you should.
That's a bizarre requirement for the most basic feature, I feel. Like I don't want to be signed in to Zoom, or to have an account, to use someone else's teleconference system. Nor do I want to install an app for it for sure. It all feels very aggressive when they could easily have just provided an anonymous join from browser option.
Especially given that Zoom has been caught selling personal data, this feels like they are trying to collect data that I'm not okay with them having.
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