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    • coliverC
      coliver
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      Is this Arma? Seems like Arma specs for some reason.

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      • thwrT
        thwr @coliver
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        @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

        Is this Arma? Seems like Arma specs for some reason.

        Gotcha 😉

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        • coliverC
          coliver @thwr
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          @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

          @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

          Is this Arma? Seems like Arma specs for some reason.

          Gotcha 😉

          Ah. I've run it on Vultr before... I only had 6 players so I didn't need so much performance.

          I know they have high frequency systems that get some pretty killer single core performance.

          https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/

          But the two big Arma communities that I know collocate their servers.

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          • thwrT
            thwr
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            we're running 5 gameservers + a number of headless clients on the i9. Two large Gitlab-instances, 2x rocket.chat and a few other workloads like Nextcloud and custom apps.

            Plan is to move everything but the gameservers to smaller hosted VMs, like DigitalOcean, Vulture, Hetzner etc.

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            • thwrT
              thwr @coliver
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              @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

              @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

              @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

              Is this Arma? Seems like Arma specs for some reason.

              Gotcha 😉

              Ah. I've run it on Vultr before... I only had 6 players so I didn't need so much performance.

              I know they have high frequency systems that get some pretty killer single core performance.

              https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/

              But the two big Arma communities that I know collocate their servers.

              yeah... it's more like 80 players and a freaking amount of AI.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @thwr
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                @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                Is this Arma? Seems like Arma specs for some reason.

                Gotcha 😉

                Ah. I've run it on Vultr before... I only had 6 players so I didn't need so much performance.

                I know they have high frequency systems that get some pretty killer single core performance.

                https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/

                But the two big Arma communities that I know collocate their servers.

                yeah... it's more like 80 players and a freaking amount of AI.

                Yeah. Wish someone would write a plugin to offload the AI to a dedicated client.

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                • thwrT
                  thwr @coliver
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                  @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                  @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                  @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                  @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                  @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                  Is this Arma? Seems like Arma specs for some reason.

                  Gotcha 😉

                  Ah. I've run it on Vultr before... I only had 6 players so I didn't need so much performance.

                  I know they have high frequency systems that get some pretty killer single core performance.

                  https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/

                  But the two big Arma communities that I know collocate their servers.

                  yeah... it's more like 80 players and a freaking amount of AI.

                  Yeah. Wish someone would write a plugin to offload the AI to a dedicated client.

                  That's what the headless client does. It's actually a "micro-server" where one can offload at least a part of the AI stuff. But it doesn't scale very well.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @thwr
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                    @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                    @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                    @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                    @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                    @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                    @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                    Is this Arma? Seems like Arma specs for some reason.

                    Gotcha 😉

                    Ah. I've run it on Vultr before... I only had 6 players so I didn't need so much performance.

                    I know they have high frequency systems that get some pretty killer single core performance.

                    https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/

                    But the two big Arma communities that I know collocate their servers.

                    yeah... it's more like 80 players and a freaking amount of AI.

                    Yeah. Wish someone would write a plugin to offload the AI to a dedicated client.

                    That's what the headless client does. It's actually a "micro-server" where one can offload at least a part of the AI stuff. But it doesn't scale very well.

                    Ah, that's good to know. I probably won't ever get back into Arma but if I do...

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @coliver
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                      @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                      @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                      @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                      @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                      @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                      @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                      @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                      Is this Arma? Seems like Arma specs for some reason.

                      Gotcha 😉

                      Ah. I've run it on Vultr before... I only had 6 players so I didn't need so much performance.

                      I know they have high frequency systems that get some pretty killer single core performance.

                      https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/

                      But the two big Arma communities that I know collocate their servers.

                      yeah... it's more like 80 players and a freaking amount of AI.

                      Yeah. Wish someone would write a plugin to offload the AI to a dedicated client.

                      That's what the headless client does. It's actually a "micro-server" where one can offload at least a part of the AI stuff. But it doesn't scale very well.

                      Ah, that's good to know. I probably won't ever get back into Arma but if I do...

                      The game is just getting old, but Arma 4 is still far away - if it will ever see the light of day.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
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                        Yeah... either way maybe Vultr's high performance stuff would work for you.

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr @coliver
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                          @coliver said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                          Yeah... either way maybe Vultr's high performance stuff would work for you.

                          Will definitely look into it, thank you

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @thwr
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                            @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                            Looking around for a high performance (in terms of single thread performance) game server. We're using a Core i9-9900K with NVMe SSDs and enough RAM at the moment, which is pretty good, but the machine has some serious issues. Reboots without any reason at random times in different conditions (0% load, 10% load, 100% load). No log entries at all. Looks like a hard reset to me, not a clean reboot.

                            Hoster doesn't accept our problem reports, so it's time to move on. Shouldn't be a big deal because 100% of our workloads are dockerized, even the game servers itself.

                            Suggestions? I'm looking for something like...

                            • 8th Gen Intel Core or Xeon or newer, at least 6 cores - the game engine doesn't like AMD
                            • 4,0 GHz core frequency or more - the game engine is pretty old and we need every MHz 🙂
                            • 16GB of RAM, 64GB preferred
                            • 512GB Storage or more, SATA or NVMe SSD

                            Budget?

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                            • thwrT
                              thwr
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                              ~ 100 EUR per month

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @thwr
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                                @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                ~ 100 EUR per month

                                that should buy you a lot of Vultr.

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                                • thwrT
                                  thwr @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                  @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                  ~ 100 EUR per month

                                  that should buy you a lot of Vultr.

                                  They only offer an E3 1270 v6, which is a quad core, for 120 USD

                                  https://ark.intel.com/content/www/de/de/ark/products/97479/intel-xeon-processor-e3-1270-v6-8m-cache-3-80-ghz.html
                                  https://www.vultr.com/products/bare-metal/

                                  Storage is also an issue

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                    @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                    ~ 100 EUR per month

                                    that should buy you a lot of Vultr.

                                    Not really. But what it might get you is a physical game server in a colo 🙂

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                      @Dashrender said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                      @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                      ~ 100 EUR per month

                                      that should buy you a lot of Vultr.

                                      Not really. But what it might get you is a physical game server in a colo 🙂

                                      Yep, that would be the last option. We want to rent the hardware.

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                                        If you want performance, you shouldn't run a VM on shared host somewhere where you have zero control of the resources used. You need a dedicated host / hardware. So bare metal hosting or colo.

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                                          thwr @1337
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                                          @Pete-S said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                          If you want performance, you shouldn't run a VM on shared host somewhere where you have zero control of the resources used. You need a dedicated host / hardware. So bare metal hosting or colo.

                                          Oh, that's a very common mistake. A (type 1 hypervisor) VM has next to no performance impact. Hosted VMs on the other side are often running on overcommitted hosts.

                                          But yes, I'm looking for bare metal for rent.

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                                            1337 @thwr
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                                            @thwr said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                            @Pete-S said in Looking for a high performance game server:

                                            If you want performance, you shouldn't run a VM on shared host somewhere where you have zero control of the resources used. You need a dedicated host / hardware. So bare metal hosting or colo.

                                            Oh, that's a very common mistake. A (type 1 hypervisor) VM has next to no performance impact. Hosted VMs on the other side are often running on overcommitted hosts.

                                            But yes, I'm looking for bare metal for rent.

                                            I just wanted to clarify because it's common for people to think that running virtualized has only a few percent performance impact when in in fact there is a major impact when it comes to high performance I/O - unless you can use SR-IOV and bypass the entire hypervisor. Or bypassing the hypervisor with PCI passtrough on the controller. That goes for both NICs and NVMe drives.

                                            Anyway, if you're looking to rent a server it would be very difficult to find one with a high GHz desktop CPU. There are no high GHz server CPUs. Server CPUs are tuned differently.

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