All in one backup appliances
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Don't know if we'd be syncing off-site and cloud daily. We're already syncing to TO and it's taking about 4 to 6 hrs daily IIRC. Just checked with our backup lead and daily delta typically runs anywhere from 200GB to 500GB.
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@notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:
Don't know if we'd be syncing off-site and cloud daily. We're already syncing to TO and it's taking about 4 to 6 hrs daily IIRC. Just checked with our backup lead and daily delta typically runs anywhere from 200GB to 500GB.
So you probably aren't going to be syncing this daily, unless you have really good internet. Do you?
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Which if you aren't sync regularly, this means that you'd have much longer sync times when your backup does run. Only compounding the issue.
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@notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:
OK, maybe I mis-spoke. Nothing community / unsupported.
Oh, that's entirely different. No connection to open source there. Open source has more support, not less.
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@DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:
So your boss is looking for a throat to choke if things go sideways. Or is he looking for a provider who simply has support channels?
What about something like Zmanda?
Don't think Zmanda has been making appliances, have they?
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@notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:
@DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:
@notverypunny are you trying to build a solution that lives on premise? Are you considering skipping the 3-2-1 rule entirely?
Possible setup would be an appliance here at the main site connected to an LTO-8 tape setup with sync to the cloud and maybe another sync with our Toronto office.
Datto is a major appliance maker. Unitrends you already know. StorageCraft has appliances now, they bought OneBlox to get their tech for that, some damn cool stuff.
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@scottalanmiller said in All in one backup appliances:
@notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:
@DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:
@notverypunny are you trying to build a solution that lives on premise? Are you considering skipping the 3-2-1 rule entirely?
Possible setup would be an appliance here at the main site connected to an LTO-8 tape setup with sync to the cloud and maybe another sync with our Toronto office.
Datto is a major appliance maker. Unitrends you already know. StorageCraft has appliances now, they bought OneBlox to get their tech for that, some damn cool stuff.
I would think that having a branded appliance would be too confining.
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@wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:
I would think that having a branded appliance would be too confining.
So you want to be able to bring your own kit to the party?
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@scottalanmiller said in All in one backup appliances:
Don't think Zmanda has been making appliances, have they?
Not sure, but as a solutions vendor the name has been around for ever and works with just about everything.
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@DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:
@wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:
I would think that having a branded appliance would be too confining.
So you want to be able to bring your own kit to the party?
Sure. I have been. Then, if I didn't like the backup vendor, I can re-purpose it for someone else's product.
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@wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:
@DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:
@wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:
I would think that having a branded appliance would be too confining.
So you want to be able to bring your own kit to the party?
Sure. I have been. Then, if I didn't like the backup vendor, I can re-purpose it for someone else's product.
So you aren't specifically looking for an appliance. (Appliances you buy). Scale Computing offers appliances as an example.
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@DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:
@wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:
@DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:
@wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:
I would think that having a branded appliance would be too confining.
So you want to be able to bring your own kit to the party?
Sure. I have been. Then, if I didn't like the backup vendor, I can re-purpose it for someone else's product.
So you aren't specifically looking for an appliance. (Appliances you buy). Scale Computing offers appliances as an example.
Got it. I use Veeam, so I don't need a hardware appliance that is specifically made by them to run/manage backups.
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@wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:
Got it. I use Veeam,
So you have a backup software provider, who works with everything you mentioned wanting to backup. Why not engage Veeam to help scope out how the LTO and remote backup/cloud sync options should work?
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@scottalanmiller said in All in one backup appliances:
@notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:
OK, maybe I mis-spoke. Nothing community / unsupported.
Oh, that's entirely different. No connection to open source there. Open source has more support, not less.
Community versions of commercial products definitely help find bugs. Support is generally well searchable and many people are knowledgeable about it since it is more widely used than paid versions. Being able to have a community product where you then add support and features to it, is ideal.
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@IRJ said in All in one backup appliances:
@scottalanmiller said in All in one backup appliances:
@notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:
OK, maybe I mis-spoke. Nothing community / unsupported.
Oh, that's entirely different. No connection to open source there. Open source has more support, not less.
Community versions of commercial products definitely help find bugs. Support is generally well searchable and many people are knowledgeable about it since it is more widely used than paid versions. Being able to have a community product where you then add support and features to it, is ideal.
I'd say having a community product in addition to having paid support is ideal
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Zmanda/Amanda looks dead. https://github.com/zmanda/amanda
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Bacula looks more promising and also have commercial support. https://www.baculasystems.com/
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@IRJ said in All in one backup appliances:
@scottalanmiller said in All in one backup appliances:
@notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:
OK, maybe I mis-spoke. Nothing community / unsupported.
Oh, that's entirely different. No connection to open source there. Open source has more support, not less.
Community versions of commercial products definitely help find bugs. Support is generally well searchable and many people are knowledgeable about it since it is more widely used than paid versions. Being able to have a community product where you then add support and features to it, is ideal.
Absolutely.
