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    • IRJI
      IRJ
      last edited by

      You could use a github repository and manage ansible locally using shell scripts.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller , it would look like this.

        #***********************************************************
        # Install ansible
        #***********************************************************
        
        sudo apt install -y ansible
        
        
        #***********************************************************
        # Create or append ansible requirements file
        #***********************************************************
        
        sudo sh -c "echo '- src: https://github.com/florianutz/Ubuntu1804-CIS.git' >> /etc/ansible/requirements.yml"
        
        
        #***********************************************************
        # Install the role for CIS Ubuntu script from Github
        #***********************************************************
        
        cd /etc/ansible/
        sudo ansible-galaxy install -p roles -r /etc/ansible/requirements.yml
        
        #***********************************************************
        # Create Ansible Playbook for CIS Ubuntu script
        #***********************************************************
        
        sudo sh -c "cat > /etc/ansible/harden.yml <<EOF
        - name: Harden Server
          hosts: localhost
          connection: local
          become: yes
          roles:
            - Ubuntu1804-CIS
            
        EOF
        "
        
        
        #***********************************************************
        # Run ansible playbook file
        #***********************************************************
        
        sudo ansible-playbook /etc/ansible/harden.yml
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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IRJ
          last edited by

          @IRJ I suspect that that does not work on Windows, though.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Since Windows doesn't run Ansible.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce
              last edited by

              Why Ansible with Windows?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @Obsolesce said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                Why Ansible with Windows?

                I don't think @scottalanmiller is running Ansible from Windows, but looking to manage Windows with Ansible.

                Which it looks like it's included. .

                https://www.ansible.com/integrations/infrastructure/windows

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  Specifically

                  https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/user_guide/windows_faq.html#can-ansible-run-on-windows

                  No, Ansible can only manage Windows hosts. Ansible cannot run on a Windows host natively, though it can run under the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @Obsolesce said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                    Why Ansible with Windows?

                    Because it seems to be more robust than Salt.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                      @Obsolesce said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                      Why Ansible with Windows?

                      I don't think @scottalanmiller is running Ansible from Windows, but looking to manage Windows with Ansible.

                      Which it looks like it's included. .

                      https://www.ansible.com/integrations/infrastructure/windows

                      Correct. It is included, but how do you reach it when the Windows client leaves the LAN?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                        @Obsolesce said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                        Why Ansible with Windows?

                        I don't think @scottalanmiller is running Ansible from Windows, but looking to manage Windows with Ansible.

                        Which it looks like it's included. .

                        https://www.ansible.com/integrations/infrastructure/windows

                        Correct. It is included, but how do you reach it when the Windows client leaves the LAN?

                        How would you reach anything else when it's not on the LAN?

                        VPN, ssh etc.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                          @Obsolesce said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                          Why Ansible with Windows?

                          I don't think @scottalanmiller is running Ansible from Windows, but looking to manage Windows with Ansible.

                          Which it looks like it's included. .

                          https://www.ansible.com/integrations/infrastructure/windows

                          Correct. It is included, but how do you reach it when the Windows client leaves the LAN?

                          How would you reach anything else when it's not on the LAN?

                          VPN, ssh etc.

                          Salt has no issue with that, works the same on LAN or off LAN.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            With Windows, my guess would be Powershell over SSH

                            https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/scripting/learn/remoting/ssh-remoting-in-powershell-core?view=powershell-6

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                              @Obsolesce said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                              Why Ansible with Windows?

                              I don't think @scottalanmiller is running Ansible from Windows, but looking to manage Windows with Ansible.

                              Which it looks like it's included. .

                              https://www.ansible.com/integrations/infrastructure/windows

                              Correct. It is included, but how do you reach it when the Windows client leaves the LAN?

                              How would you reach anything else when it's not on the LAN?

                              VPN, ssh etc.

                              Don't want a VPN or to expose ports. Salt handles this beautifully. I can't figure out how all the other ecosystems deal with the myriad machines that don't sit directly accessible on the LAN.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                                With Windows, my guess would be Powershell over SSH

                                https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/scripting/learn/remoting/ssh-remoting-in-powershell-core?view=powershell-6

                                SSH call back automation isn't the best and if you don't have a person managing it, I think you are going to have a tough time.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  SHould work, in theory, but having every machine SSH back to the Ansible server to establish a tunnel is extremely cumbersome.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by DustinB3403

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                                    With Windows, my guess would be Powershell over SSH

                                    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/scripting/learn/remoting/ssh-remoting-in-powershell-core?view=powershell-6

                                    SSH call back automation isn't the best and if you don't have a person managing it, I think you are going to have a tough time.

                                    Well windows isn't* POSIX compliant so yeah. . I'd expect as much.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                                      With Windows, my guess would be Powershell over SSH

                                      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/scripting/learn/remoting/ssh-remoting-in-powershell-core?view=powershell-6

                                      SSH call back automation isn't the best and if you don't have a person managing it, I think you are going to have a tough time.

                                      Well windows is POSIX compliant so yeah. . I'd expect as much.

                                      Yeah, but it would be crappy on UNIX, too. SSH call backs are just cumbersome all around.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        That's why Salt uses an agent, an agent of some sort is required for normal companies to have coverage.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          I think most companies try to only manage a very limited subset of their machines with these tools, and just skip managing the "tough ones" in almost all cases. Which is fine, but totally doesn't meet my needs 95% of the time.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Ansible Agent Option?:

                                            I think most companies try to only manage a very limited subset of their machines with these tools, and just skip managing the "tough ones" in almost all cases. Which is fine, but totally doesn't meet my needs 95% of the time.

                                            Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat. Ansible fits for the 95% that I want to manage (Apple) but I need it to do some backflips to make it work.

                                            And am totally skipping Windows with Ansible because we have so few of them that the setup time just isn't worth it IMO.

                                            Still playing it all out though.

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