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    • Donahue
      Donahue last edited by Donahue

      I have several VM's that are not syncing with domain time correctly. They keep jumping forward about 6 minutes, and then jumping back. This is happening repeatedly. Is there a way to force these domain members to stay on domain time? The DC is not doing this and is set to get it's time from pool.ntp.org

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      • DustinB3403
        DustinB3403 last edited by

        Is your hypervisor time off?

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        • Dashrender
          Dashrender last edited by

          Are they being set to sync with the VM tools for their host platform? Then being set back by Windows as part of being in AD?

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          • Dashrender
            Dashrender @DustinB3403 last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in Domain Time off for some members:

            Is your hypervisor time off?

            Exactly - if the VM's are pulling time via the hypervisor tools - then checking against AD, they will continue to bounce.

            you should disable syncing with the host hypervisor.

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            • DustinB3403
              DustinB3403 last edited by

              If your DC is reaching out to pool.ntp.org, I would set your hypervisor to hit the same time server.

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              • Donahue
                Donahue last edited by

                hypervisor or host?

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                • Dashrender
                  Dashrender @Donahue last edited by

                  @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                  hypervisor or host?

                  Those are generally the same thing.

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                  • DustinB3403
                    DustinB3403 @Donahue last edited by

                    @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                    hypervisor or host?

                    The hypervisor is a type 1, yes? Hyper-V, ESXi, XenServer or XCP-NG or KVM? (the hypervisor and host should be one in the same)

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                    • DustinB3403
                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Domain Time off for some members:

                      @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                      hypervisor or host?

                      Those are generally the same thing.

                      Damn are we reading each other's minds today!

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                      • Donahue
                        Donahue last edited by

                        ok, host time was wrong, but it was way wrong, more than the 6 minutes. How do I tell ESXi not to sync with host?

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                        • Dashrender
                          Dashrender @Donahue last edited by

                          @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                          ok, host time was wrong, but it was way wrong, more than the 6 minutes. How do I tell ESXi not to sync with host?

                          That's the wrong thing to look at. You want your VM's to not sync with ESXi. And maybe you don't want ESXi to sync with the hardwarde (because you can sync to the internet).

                          In the settings for VMWare tools in the VMs there should be setting - sync with ESXi or something... disable that.

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                          • DustinB3403
                            DustinB3403 @Donahue last edited by

                            @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                            ok, host time was wrong, but it was way wrong, more than the 6 minutes. How do I tell ESXi not to sync with host?

                            You can set your guests time server to be something other than the host.

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                            • Donahue
                              Donahue last edited by

                              ok, that setting was already disabled in the VMWare tools options, so that's not the problem.

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                              • JaredBusch
                                JaredBusch @Donahue last edited by JaredBusch

                                @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                ok, that setting was already disabled in the VMWare tools options, so that's not the problem.

                                Fix it anyway. The host time needs to be right.

                                Also, your VM sets time on boot to that even if that option is not checked. Until the VM network comes online and sets itself to whatever source it has.

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                                • Donahue
                                  Donahue last edited by

                                  The host time has been set correctly, but I don't think that was the source of the problem. Time Sync.PNG

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                                  • Donahue
                                    Donahue @JaredBusch last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                    Also, your VM sets time on boot to that even if that option is not checked. Until the VM network comes online and sets itself to whatever source it has.

                                    But this VM has not been rebooting, it just keeps changing while running.

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                                    • JaredBusch
                                      JaredBusch @Donahue last edited by

                                      @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                      Also, your VM sets time on boot to that even if that option is not checked. Until the VM network comes online and sets itself to whatever source it has.

                                      But this VM has not been rebooting, it just keeps changing while running.

                                      Didn't say it was. Just saying fix this problem also.

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                                      • Donahue
                                        Donahue @JaredBusch last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                        @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                        Also, your VM sets time on boot to that even if that option is not checked. Until the VM network comes online and sets itself to whatever source it has.

                                        But this VM has not been rebooting, it just keeps changing while running.

                                        Didn't say it was. Just saying fix this problem also.

                                        oh ok, I understand.

                                        I feel like maybe there is some sort of group policy that should be set to make this sync work correctly, and that somehow mine is not set. Although, this problem is only recent.

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                                        • Donahue
                                          Donahue last edited by

                                          I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

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                                          • JaredBusch
                                            JaredBusch @Donahue last edited by JaredBusch

                                            @Donahue said in Domain Time off for some members:

                                            I just realized it must be related to this host. I recently moved the main VM that I am having a problem with to this host.

                                            Windows could be checking hte hardware clock. This has nothing to do with VM tools settings.

                                            And your host (the hardware) was off.

                                            But Windows was not moving it too far..

                                            Answer: Windows sucks.

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