How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly
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@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
So apple is not operating like a swap meet, that has been established. It is operating like a consignment store?
No, it is operating like a normal store. There is no non-normal store involved here. Consignment is a swap meet with hired oversight. This is nothing like that. It's like Amazon or Walmart.
That is your position, and I agree. But if apple chose to take the position of a consignment store, would that change their options for defense? Do consignment stores offer any protections to them that regular stores don't have?
Apple can't just choose to defend themselves as something that they are not, though. The products there are not on consignment, so that would just land them in contempt of court.
Apple can choose to do whatever they want. It may not be legal or wise, but they could. I was just trying to explore that possibility.
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@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
So apple is not operating like a swap meet, that has been established. It is operating like a consignment store?
No, it is operating like a normal store. There is no non-normal store involved here. Consignment is a swap meet with hired oversight. This is nothing like that. It's like Amazon or Walmart.
That is your position, and I agree. But if apple chose to take the position of a consignment store, would that change their options for defense? Do consignment stores offer any protections to them that regular stores don't have?
Apple can't just choose to defend themselves as something that they are not, though. The products there are not on consignment, so that would just land them in contempt of court.
Apple can choose to do whatever they want. It may not be legal or wise, but they could. I was just trying to explore that possibility.
Sure, but once we go into "they can just lie about it", the sky is the limit. They could claim that the customer doesn't exist, the app doesn't exist, heck, that Apple doesn't even exist.
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@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
So apple is not operating like a swap meet, that has been established. It is operating like a consignment store?
No, it is operating like a normal store. There is no non-normal store involved here. Consignment is a swap meet with hired oversight. This is nothing like that. It's like Amazon or Walmart.
That is your position, and I agree. But if apple chose to take the position of a consignment store, would that change their options for defense? Do consignment stores offer any protections to them that regular stores don't have?
Apple can't just choose to defend themselves as something that they are not, though. The products there are not on consignment, so that would just land them in contempt of court.
Apple can choose to do whatever they want. It may not be legal or wise, but they could. I was just trying to explore that possibility.
Sure, but once we go into "they can just lie about it", the sky is the limit. They could claim that the customer doesn't exist, the app doesn't exist, heck, that Apple doesn't even exist.
They are in fact claiming that the customer doesn't exist.
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@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
So apple is not operating like a swap meet, that has been established. It is operating like a consignment store?
No, it is operating like a normal store. There is no non-normal store involved here. Consignment is a swap meet with hired oversight. This is nothing like that. It's like Amazon or Walmart.
That is your position, and I agree. But if apple chose to take the position of a consignment store, would that change their options for defense? Do consignment stores offer any protections to them that regular stores don't have?
Apple can't just choose to defend themselves as something that they are not, though. The products there are not on consignment, so that would just land them in contempt of court.
Apple can choose to do whatever they want. It may not be legal or wise, but they could. I was just trying to explore that possibility.
Sure, but once we go into "they can just lie about it", the sky is the limit. They could claim that the customer doesn't exist, the app doesn't exist, heck, that Apple doesn't even exist.
They are in fact claiming that the customer doesn't exist.
Yeah, which is what we are saying won't fly. It's so absurd to claim the transaction never happened. If they win, they are in for massive lawsuits of theft by stealing money from people that aren't their customers. Apple would have no recourse.
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@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
So apple is not operating like a swap meet, that has been established. It is operating like a consignment store?
No, it is operating like a normal store. There is no non-normal store involved here. Consignment is a swap meet with hired oversight. This is nothing like that. It's like Amazon or Walmart.
That is your position, and I agree. But if apple chose to take the position of a consignment store, would that change their options for defense? Do consignment stores offer any protections to them that regular stores don't have?
Apple can't just choose to defend themselves as something that they are not, though. The products there are not on consignment, so that would just land them in contempt of court.
Apple can choose to do whatever they want. It may not be legal or wise, but they could. I was just trying to explore that possibility.
Sure, but once we go into "they can just lie about it", the sky is the limit. They could claim that the customer doesn't exist, the app doesn't exist, heck, that Apple doesn't even exist.
They are in fact claiming that the customer doesn't exist.
Yeah, which is what we are saying won't fly. It's so absurd to claim the transaction never happened. If they win, they are in for massive lawsuits of theft by stealing money from people that aren't their customers. Apple would have no recourse.
Sadly, it did fly at lower courts though.
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@Dashrender said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
So apple is not operating like a swap meet, that has been established. It is operating like a consignment store?
No, it is operating like a normal store. There is no non-normal store involved here. Consignment is a swap meet with hired oversight. This is nothing like that. It's like Amazon or Walmart.
That is your position, and I agree. But if apple chose to take the position of a consignment store, would that change their options for defense? Do consignment stores offer any protections to them that regular stores don't have?
Apple can't just choose to defend themselves as something that they are not, though. The products there are not on consignment, so that would just land them in contempt of court.
Apple can choose to do whatever they want. It may not be legal or wise, but they could. I was just trying to explore that possibility.
Sure, but once we go into "they can just lie about it", the sky is the limit. They could claim that the customer doesn't exist, the app doesn't exist, heck, that Apple doesn't even exist.
They are in fact claiming that the customer doesn't exist.
Yeah, which is what we are saying won't fly. It's so absurd to claim the transaction never happened. If they win, they are in for massive lawsuits of theft by stealing money from people that aren't their customers. Apple would have no recourse.
Sadly, it did fly at lower courts though.
That's not very telling. That's like where intern judges work.
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@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Dashrender said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
So apple is not operating like a swap meet, that has been established. It is operating like a consignment store?
No, it is operating like a normal store. There is no non-normal store involved here. Consignment is a swap meet with hired oversight. This is nothing like that. It's like Amazon or Walmart.
That is your position, and I agree. But if apple chose to take the position of a consignment store, would that change their options for defense? Do consignment stores offer any protections to them that regular stores don't have?
Apple can't just choose to defend themselves as something that they are not, though. The products there are not on consignment, so that would just land them in contempt of court.
Apple can choose to do whatever they want. It may not be legal or wise, but they could. I was just trying to explore that possibility.
Sure, but once we go into "they can just lie about it", the sky is the limit. They could claim that the customer doesn't exist, the app doesn't exist, heck, that Apple doesn't even exist.
They are in fact claiming that the customer doesn't exist.
Yeah, which is what we are saying won't fly. It's so absurd to claim the transaction never happened. If they win, they are in for massive lawsuits of theft by stealing money from people that aren't their customers. Apple would have no recourse.
Sadly, it did fly at lower courts though.
That's not very telling. That's like where intern judges work.
LOL - you mean where the stupid precedent that is trying to be used was created?
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@Dashrender said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Dashrender said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
@Donahue said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
So apple is not operating like a swap meet, that has been established. It is operating like a consignment store?
No, it is operating like a normal store. There is no non-normal store involved here. Consignment is a swap meet with hired oversight. This is nothing like that. It's like Amazon or Walmart.
That is your position, and I agree. But if apple chose to take the position of a consignment store, would that change their options for defense? Do consignment stores offer any protections to them that regular stores don't have?
Apple can't just choose to defend themselves as something that they are not, though. The products there are not on consignment, so that would just land them in contempt of court.
Apple can choose to do whatever they want. It may not be legal or wise, but they could. I was just trying to explore that possibility.
Sure, but once we go into "they can just lie about it", the sky is the limit. They could claim that the customer doesn't exist, the app doesn't exist, heck, that Apple doesn't even exist.
They are in fact claiming that the customer doesn't exist.
Yeah, which is what we are saying won't fly. It's so absurd to claim the transaction never happened. If they win, they are in for massive lawsuits of theft by stealing money from people that aren't their customers. Apple would have no recourse.
Sadly, it did fly at lower courts though.
That's not very telling. That's like where intern judges work.
LOL - you mean where the stupid precedent that is trying to be used was created?
Indeed
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@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
Awesome!
I totally get the desire to have a single currated appstore.. but 30% seems way to high.
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@scottalanmiller said in How Apple hopes to stop a customer lawsuit over its App Store monopoly:
Yeah this is pretty huge. Apple made over $11 Billion last year alone from sales in the App store.
